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I gather The Federation got out of the whole after 5 years it'll break design - like we've got now... Our first video player from 1982 lasted until 1994... ok it had a few 'clean ups' but that is about it - It was working fine... our new video - hits the five year mark and becomes... stuffed... I guess the Federation builds things that last.
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We have seen 24th century "cars", though. One was puttering around Cambridge, for instance, in "All Good Things...".
I wonder how much action Jupiter Station would see. You would think that if enemy forces were routinely showing up in the solar system, we might have heard something about it. On the other hand, it does appear to be the home for some sensitive research, so maybe they're just being understandably cautious.
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*coughs* two Borg incursions in 6 years *clears throat*
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As far as Starfleet not having enough money is concerned...funny how the number of kitbashes and rescaled/reused designs has decreased in the last couple of years.
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Ya know what I just realized. Jupiter Station looks a HELLUVA lot like the space station seen in the painting in Picard's Quarters! Maybe Jupiter Station has been around since the beginning of the Federation, and just got expanded. Instead of just a single lower part and one saucer, it's expanded to 2 lower parts and 6 saucers!
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Erm... The painting in Picard's quarters was of Spacedock (or one of the stations of that design).
Oh, and as for Zimmerman's age... He didn't really look that old. He just had grey hair. If you were his age and dying of an incurable (as far as you know) and terminal illness, don't you think your hair would go a little grey?
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To go on about the theme of reusing old vehicles...
The hovercar at Cambridge could easily have been the equivalent of a horse-drawn carriage today. That is, an outdated piece of technology used for its antiquity value. Cambridge would be JUST the correct place to find something like that.
According to "The 37s", hovercars were used in the mid-21st century. The ep made it sound as if they disappeared soon thereafter. Perhaps transporters were invented in that timeframe (or introduced to Earth by Vulcans and other aliens who began pouring in after 2063)? In the 24th century, vehicles would probably no longer be used much, and transporting would be the standard method of moving around (as some lines from "Realm of Fear" suggest).
Of course, there would always be antique vehicles for enthusiasts and traditionalists, including the horse-drawn carriages and conventional trains of Paris, the hovercars of Cambridge, and the air trams of San Francisco.
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As for the Type-9 shuttle, there is nor reason to assume they were built *on* Voyager, although they look a lot (too much) as if they were designed *for* Voyager. So no matter what the odd "Class 2" actually refers to (this very shuttle or a generic term), the shuttles should exist elsewhere too - only with a different registry than 74656.
I would love to see old saucers being reused. After all that's better than store them at Qualor II.
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quote:As far as Starfleet not having enough money is concerned...funny how the number of kitbashes and rescaled/reused designs has decreased in the last couple of years.
Well, it is known that war is good for the economy (especially military industry), so maybe the Federation could have used a little refreshment with the Dominion Wars
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Prakesh, I don't think that's universally true by any means. War is all well and good unless you're fighting it in your backyard.
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It could be one of the shuttles that didn't make onto Voyager before it left for DS9. With the Dominion War Starfleet may have simply forgot to cahnge to registry on the shuttle.
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After 6 years? And the registry of a ship thought lost for most of that time? Bit insensitive.
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I would surmise that when a ship is finally commissioned, it already has all its needed equipment and supplies, and that includes any shuttles and other small craft. The crew always comes later as individual members are picked up from wherever. And I think Voyager's aerowing shuttle is complete unless Voyager was rushed into service, but there's been no evidence to suggest that.
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I think scientists found a small connection between hair loss and excessive production of testosterone, for some of those that don't inherit baldness. That, coupled with the facts that his is a stressed-out line of work, and that his first EMH earned him utter humiliation, and that Doc Zimmerman is an arrogant, easily aggrovated and unloved man that for a time had a terminal illness explains the gray hair nicely, methinks.
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