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Bernd
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These images are from http://stardock.simplenet.com/startrek/index.html:

Spot the Breen ship! http://stardock.simplenet.com/startrek/pics/what_you_leave_behind/099.jpg

Yes, the battlecruiser is *above* the battleship: http://stardock.simplenet.com/startrek/pics/what_you_leave_behind/100.jpg

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I guess there's some kind of spacial anomaly between the ship and the TV camera...

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Stupid question: is it true that the dominion�s battleship exists in two versions, one in "The valiant" and the superbig in the later episode? (since I can�t see these episodes myself, I have no way of knowing...)

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The one in "Valiant" is the superbig...

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Michael Dracon
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Just some extra info: The Breen ship is about 300 meters long, or: just a little longer than a Miranda class but shorter than a Galor class.

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pIn'a', there's the first 200-300m battlecruiser seen in the purple nebula in "In Purgatory's Shadow", then there's the 400-500m standard battlecruiser seen after said ep, then there's the 1200-1500m battleship. The "Valiant"-ship and WYLB are the same.

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It's strange how we never saw the Purgatory cruiser after that episode. Although it looks different I tend to think that it and the normal battle cruisers are meant to represent the same design in the show. Also, would I be right in thinking that the Purgatory cruiser was only built as a physical model but the normal cruiser only exists as a CGI?

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Michael Dracon
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Actually we did see it. You can see one turning around and shooting down a Miranda class in the famous 'Sacrifice of Angels: kill the two Miranda's which are next to the Defiant' scene (which is also used in WYLB).

There are only a few 700-800m Dominion visible in most battles, like the one at the end of the SofA blockade, where the Defiant skims over the surface.

Try looking at the first wave of ships in 'Call to Arms'. One ship has a lot of bright purple colors is clearly larger, the rest are grey-ish with little or no other colors. Those grey ones are most probably the 300-400m ones.

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What about the ships that have a pronounced anhedral to the wings? The "V-type" ships, so to say, from the wormhole scene of "Sacrifice of the Angels"?

How many truly different *designs* are there, apart from scaled-up or scaled-down ones? One could argue there are two sizes of the small attack ship, but there's just one design. And there's just one battleship design. But the midsize ships are confusing. Are there two or three designs?

Three would include two with level wings but different-sized nacelles wrt the body, one with V wings - but do the different-sized nacelles really exist, or is this just an artistic error between the Fact Files and the Encyclopedia?

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I'd say there is evidence for three seperate designs.

The standard cruiser: image.

The "Valiant" supersized cruiser: image.

The V-shaped cruiser. I didn't find an image of this one in my hasty five minute search. But it's clearly a different shape than the standard one.

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You can get a screencap from the purgatory-promo, downloadable from startrek.com. You know, print-scrn and then add in some photo-program.

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Altair: "Call of arms", got any pics of that jem hadar ship? I can�t seem to find it anywhere.

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For pics of the Jem Hadar ships, check out my page: http://w1.314.telia.com/~u31412332/misc/jem.htm

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Michael Dracon
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pIn'a'Sov: Do you have bigger scans of those collored wireframes of the huge battleship?

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And how about clarifying the canonical terminology?

Is "Attack Ship" canonical for the small fighting vessels, or is it just from the Encyclopedia and DS9 TM? Have other designations been used in the episodes?
Which episodes?

Is "Cruiser" or "Battlecruiser" canonical for the midsize vessels? For all the variants? Or just some of them? Which episodes use the terminology?

Was the big ship in "Valiant" a "Battlecruiser" or a "Battleship"?

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