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Grapeape
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Okay, I just saw (for the first time) the diagrams of the Freedom class from Plina'Sov's website, and they look VERY accurate, as far as what is visible from the only vidcap we have seen of the actual studio model. Like the Niagara class, the whole bridge structure/hangar seems to be modified from Ambassador-class components. No doubt as to that. But, do we know for sure it doesn't have a complete phaser strip around the top and bottom (instead of segmented like the Niagara)? Also, it seems odd that one of the new classes doesn't have a nav deflector - with the exception of the old Miranda-class ships, all of the modern ships seem to have one. Maybe it's built right into the front of the primary hull somehow? If only there were a bow shot of the model floating around somewhere...

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The thingamabob under the saucer (where a Galaxy would have the Yacht) probably is supposed to be the nav deflector.

The schematic seems to have an odd, customized neck, very steeply angled and similar to the TOS Enterprise neck. But the screencap suggests that the neck could be a standard Constitution-refit neck - there is this short vertical stretch just above the torp deck, even though the FF picture shows no such stretch.

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You know, not only do neither the Rigel [edit correction - Niagara] nor the supposed Freedom have anything resembling Ambassador components, and there were no Ambassador models to kitbash anyway, but nowhere has Okuda said anything about them being used...I could be wrong, but please, compare with the Ambassador model:
http://www.mjtsc.demon.co.uk/mike/startrek/1701c.htm
http://employees.csbsju.edu/rsorensen/modelcitizen/trekships/ambassador/index.html

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Shadow, refer to the USS Princeton discussion thread. It has been established there that the Niagara-class uses the lower bridge deck of an Ambassador-class ship,but reversed, with the larger end facing aft. It also has an Ambassador-class secondary hull. Yes, no kit of the E-C was available at the time, but the modelmaker had access to the molds used to make the original studio model of the E-C and did so to make the kitbash. Therefore, if you look closely at the shapes of the parts involved, the Freedom-class also uses the forward section of an Ambassador-class lower bridge (facing the "correct" way this time) with the aft end turned into a large hangar. Apparently, parts from the Galaxy and Ambassador master molds were also used for this ship as well. FYI, the Rigel class has never been mentioned, and according to Bernd's Wolf 359 page, a model may have never existed period.
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I meant Niagara, sorry.

Look at these images:
http://www.mjtsc.demon.co.uk/mike/startrek/c2l.jpg http://frankg.dgne.com/sfsd/ships/images/princeton-model.jpg

The bridge structures are not the same, not even reversed.

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While I'm yelling at stuff, here's the Fact Files Niagara diagram:
http://steve.pugh.net/fleet/images/FF_niagara_dorsal.jpg

The saucer structure looks nothing like the model. They even have the registry wrong. In fact, none of the details match the model at all!

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According to the FF, this thing above the warp nacelle (what seems to be a photon torpedo launcher) is the navdeflector.

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Aban Rune
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I know this applies to one of the previous replies (about the Freedom Class I think). Galaxy Class saucers have a deflector dish built in on the underside of the saucer forward of the yacht, about half way down between the edge of the saucer and the yacht. This serves as the ships secondary deflector array and the saucer's primary one in case of separation. It stands to reason that a similar structure would be built into Galaxy-like saucers like the Freedom and New Orleans. Therefore the answer to the "Where's the Freedom's nav def?" question is probably "On the underside of the saucer."

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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooo!!!!
*breath in*
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooo!!!!

The Niagara class official canon

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What's wrong with the Niagara?

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Aban Rune
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Beside the fact that it looks like a pillow or toy based on a Trek ship? Those nacelles look puffy and way to big for the ship. Plus, 3 nacelles has never been a popular design for me.

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Michael Dracon
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3 nacelles, that is what's wrong...
With 2 (or 4) nacelles it would be okay.

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Ooh, what does this button do?

Here's a lil' cutaway I did a time ago (of course, completelty non-canon)

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