posted March 25, 1999 02:35 PM
The map shows the path of the Enterprise through the battlefield. The ST:TNG Companion states that there were eight models in the battlefield-USS Ahwahnee (Cheyenne), USS Buran (Challenger), USS Chekov (Springfield), USS Firebrand (Freedom Class), USS Kyushu (New Orleans), USS Melbourne (Nebula), USS Princeton (Niagara), and USS Tolstoy (Rigel). This ship appears to be upside down. Two nacelles are present. One is on the port side. The other is about center of the ship. Nacelles are identified by the starfleet logo and appear to be Galaxy Class. The saucer could be a Galaxy or Ambassaodor Class. Is this a Challenger? No. Wrong nacelles. Is this a Sprinfield? Possibly Is this a Freedom? No. Wrong amount of nacelles. Is this a Nebula? No. Placement of nacelles is wrong. Is this a New Orleans? No. There is no nacelle in the center of the hull. Is this a Niagara? Very likely. Niagara is said to have three nacelles. Is this a Rigel? No. Rigel has two nacelles on upper hull and one beneath. I have a possible design for the Niagara. Imagine an Ambassador Class starship with three Galaxy Class nacelles on the upper hull supported by Galaxy Class nacelles. Sort of like the future Galaxy Class Enterprise only this time with an Ambassador Class superstructure. What do you think?
posted March 25, 1999 02:47 PM
When I wrote the earlier entry, I was tired and made mistakes. Yes, I know Sprinfield should be Springfield Let's try that description of the Niagara again, shall we? The USS Niagara and her sister ships are based on an Ambassador Class design. She has three nacelles. The port and starboard galaxy class pylons and nacelles are attached at the same location on the hull as the former Ambassador Class pylons and nacelles. This is to provide space for the third nacelle. A third Galaxy Class nacelle is connected to the hull by a special pylon. Attachment is a little forward of the attachments for the port and starboard nacelle on the center axis of the upper secondary hull. This would rendered the diagram from FF as erroneous. This may make the Niagara Class not only more attractive, but even more logical. Would someone care to draw this revised class of ship?
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Lindsly
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posted March 25, 1999 02:53 PM
TSN: The nacelles of the USS Enterprise D carry the starfleet logo of the stylized triangle on the top surface of the nacelles. This logo can be seen on the second nacelle near where the viewscreen curves.
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CaptSershek
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posted March 25, 1999 04:05 PM
I tend to agree with the evidence so far that that is the Niagara class Princeton, like I mentioned in the Challenger discussion, it's not pretty but it's the best thing that's close to what's on the screen.
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posted March 26, 1999 06:37 AM
Okay, I think I see what you're talking about, but, in that vidcap anyway, it just looks like a discolored spot. And, if it is a SF logo, it isn't necessarily on a nacelle.
However, despite that, it does look it could be a nacelle. But why does there have to be a third one? There are still only two visible...
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posted March 27, 1999 03:04 AM
Fabrux: The image is not appearing. Can you fix the problem? When the problem is fixed, I will then be able to say.
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posted March 27, 1999 03:54 AM
The problem is that the image is a BMP. Save it as something else (GIF, JPEG or PNG), change the link and it'll work fine.
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posted March 27, 1999 04:12 AM
If I'm not mistaken, the image should be there now. The red runs a little bit but the program I use does that when converting a BMP to a JPG. Still, it looks the same.
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posted March 27, 1999 03:08 PM
So are Macs (minus the ppl with Fleet Charts).
(Frank is just jealous because he has a hard time opening PNGs. Must be that Mac, I'm tellin' ya...)
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posted March 27, 1999 03:22 PM
My Mac opened the PNG file without problem. I was able to convert it to a jpeg for my own use. For the record, I used a shareware program called Graphic Converter. Still looking forward to more ships, the list grows.
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posted March 27, 1999 03:29 PM
Fabrux: The image matches with my description. Thank you for creating the image. Now, that we have an image, what is the general consensus among our fellow members as this being the genuine image of the Niagara Class? BTW, this design looks functional and as a step toward the Galaxy Class starship.
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