quote:A short time later, Greg Jein (possibly) built a new Excelsior model for "Flashback".
Yes, you're right. Pictures of Jein's model can be found at the IDIC page.
quote:Now correct me if I'm wrong but weren't the Rennaissance class, (according to TNG Tech Manual) the first starships to be fitted with asrv's like thoses on the E-D.
Actually, I thought the tech manual said that only the Hokkaido, the last class of that ship to be made, had escape pods (I know that doesn't help prove my theory, Rev, but maybe you're seeing more "greeblies" instead of pods). ------------------ Homer: "I'm not normally a praying man, but if you're up there, please save me, Superman!"
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Personally, I don't like the idea that the Hokkaido was the first Renaissance to have escape pods. People seem to take the TM line too literally here - all Rick is saying is that the Hokkaido was the first Renaissance to have ASRV-type escape pods. The preceding ships probably had another type aboard, and even the TOS ship surely had her share of well-camouflaged pods stashed somewhere.
Still, Renaissance would be my favorite identity for the Centaur, too. And since there are only two components on the ship that can give us a scale - the Excelsior saucer and the Miranda wing/pod - I'd like to disregard the saucer and go with the pod. That way, the ship would better match the size of the Jem'Hadar ship she was chasing. The saucer isn't going to have any definite size-establishing features anyway, since there aren't standard docking ports or any other identifiable size indicators in an Excelsior bridge or upper saucer surface.
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this is a direct quote from the tech manual:-
"The first ASRVs were delivered in 2337 in time to be fitted to the last Renaissance class starship, the USS Hokkaido,..."
This can mean that they were just ready to be installed when the Hokkaido was still being built, but the rest of the Renaissance class starships were already out in the field and would have to recieve them at their next refit.
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At last, another Brit. However, I'm assuming, Reverend, you're no relation to "Good Reverend" who used to post here many moons ago. . . I like some of your ship designs too.
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The TM quote could also be read as saying that the Hokkaido was the last Renaissance in service, the others having been retired or destroyed by 2337. Of course, it would then be a contradiction that, say, the Maryland of that class would serve in the late 2360s or early 2370s...
Vogon Poet: Thanks, most of those are out of date now, some I have abandoned b/c they have cut'n'paste written all over them.
Timo: I'm fairly certain that the TM quote does mean that Hokkaido was the last ship to be built because as you said, there are Renaissance class ships still in service at least as late as the 2360's or even the 2370's if the Centaur does turn out to be of this class.
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Sorry Reverand, I still can't get it. It takes me to http://www.stormloader.com/nonono.gif and says I've found a missing page or typed in a wrong url.
I tried clicking and copy/pasting and they both do the same thing.
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