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Ahh, son of a...! That's what happens when you read things too quickly. Sorry. =]
Sydney, yes... Using both the diagrams I had available (the old one from the SSD and Bernd's diagram) I just scaled the whole thing until the nacelles matched the nacelles on the Constitution II and Miranda in size. The bridges should also be in scale, but I chose to use nacelles instead.
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Adam: The Curry's nacelles are not normal Miranda nacelles. As someone pointed out a while back, the Ex and Mir model kits that were most likely used to create the ship are on totally different scales, making the nacelles terribly outsized. Looking at the vidcaps from the episode, this seems to be the case. This is even supported by the DS9TM. Even if Drexler, in modelling the ships to diagram, assembled them incorrectly, he probably at least used the right parts, including the humongous nacelles...
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[This message was edited by TSN on March 19, 1999.]
1) how can you assume that nacelles are all built the same size, look at the BOP's and their size variations. thats what irks me a little with the DS9TM, that Chakotay's ship can be taked on to an Intrepid, it is entirely too small to fit like that on the Intrepid class, I think we'd have to assume that there is ANOTHER size of dare i say it - peregrines/chakotay's ship...
Also, on one of the pics it has a runabouts nacelle pylons used - but these too look like the old - version that voyager was gonna be 's nacelle pylons
2) to look at that PNG pic - I just cntrl c'd it an then opened it in a paint package...
3) I wish down the line, even though i'm sure it'd be a big task - to have all the ships the same way - i.e. all shaded or all line drawings - especially those four from FC, the only versions of them seen are from the Enc
Andrew
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Nacelles: In my opinion, SF does NOT build their ships like Klingons and continously scale parts up and down. I am assuming that if various parts (ie: nacelles) from previous designs were used in the kitbashes, then the parts are all in their previous scales, regardless of how the actual model was built. If AMT had been smart and built all their models to the same scale, then the Shelley/Sydney/etc would look like they appear on my Chart. Any other matter of starship scaling which yields BOP-ish results (like the Raider), I blame soley on the SFX's dramatic imbellishment.
AndrewR: Yes, that would be a HUGE job... If Sternbach can ever talk Pocket Books into making a Jane's Guide-style Starship book, then we should have all matching diagrams. IF. =]
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Vorlon: GREAT job, as always, man! Really nice work!
Now about PNG files... I use IE 4.0 and my damn browser openened it in Quicktime, too. I NEED Quicktime for my Starship Creator CD ROM. So I don't want to delete it. Anybody tell me how to change the frikkin' preferences so I can open PNG's with something else??
Because, as was said earlier, you can't scroll on the Quicktime browser...
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as i said - open it in quicktime - i.e. in your browser - then press cntrl s i think to save it - then close you browser and open the picture in a paint package like psp...
Andrew
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Vorlon: I'm very grateful to you for not scaling up and down nacelles. I don't think the Curry/Shelley nacelles are taken from the out-of-scale AMT Constitution refit, that would make the ship look so ridiculous that even the worst starship designer should notice it:
------------------ Lyta Vorlon: "Our great mistake. Our failing. And now your failing. The error is compounded." Delenn: "What mistake?" Lyta Vorlon: "The first one, the one from which all mistakes proceed: The error of Pride..."
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