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Jason Abbadon
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Have you guts actually been watching American animation in the past decade?!?
I'll pass on "Star Trek: Evolution". [Roll Eyes]

Now if we could convince the good folks at Sunrise animation (home of Cowboy Bebop)to do the animation....

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ANYWAY

How's this for a Kzinti ship?

It's a rather large, clumsy ship. Perhaps two or three of them support the smaller vessels / fighters in the four attack waves. Suffering from overstretched shields and gaping sensor blind spots , they were relatively easy to disable by a good UE captain.

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Wow! That's a mean-looking little beastie. Or not so little... Those yellow circles on the sides - are they part of the drive system, imitating the "Traitor's Claw" spheres? Even if the Kzinti didn't have warp, they might have had subspace tech, like mass reduction fields. Those globes might have something to do with that.

The ship as depicted would be right at home in the TOS or TAS environment. For a live-action show of ENT style, perhaps the surface should have a darker, more complex, more armor-plated look? Armor-plated in the usual scifi sense, of course. The current looks are the most realistic way to show physically plausible, flat and reflective armor...

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quote:
Originally posted by Harry:
ANYWAY

How's this for a Kzinti ship?

It's a rather large, clumsy ship. Perhaps two or three of them support the smaller vessels / fighters in the four attack waves. Suffering from overstretched shields and gaping sensor blind spots , they were relatively easy to disable by a good UE captain.

Id be interested in reading how you arrived at your date range of 2107-2112 for the Earth-Kzin "Conflicts" as you put it. I would like to engage you and the others in an open debate over this subject.

In my view, the Earth-Kzin the last Earth-Kzin War was fought 200 years prior to the episode The Slaver Weapon per Sulu's on-screen statements. Using Mike Okuda's "rule of thumb" on relative dating (Star Trek Chronology), this would place the last war between ca. 2064 and 2069.

I will not pretend to support the contention that the TOS/TAS Era timeline can easily fit in with the rest of the "official" history, but I AM curious about this matter. Please explain how you arrived at your dating.

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There is absolutely no reason at all to the 2107-2112 range... Sorry to disappoint you [Big Grin]

Sulu's 200 years are wacky. There's no way four interstellar conflicts could have been fought in the late 2060s. Even if the Kzin didn't have warp drive, Earth couldn't possibly have any sort of fleet of armed vessels.

2107 would be about 160-170 years before TAS. That's close enough, and gives Earth a bit of time to colonize places like Alpha Centauri (although AC could have been colonized before WW3...) and to develop a more 'military' fleet. 2112 is 2111 (four Wars in four years), plus one to make it less obvious. You see? No reason at all!

And another presumption I'd like to steal from Timo is the scale of these conflicts. Four Kzinti fleets reaching the Solar system and/or a colony seem more realistic for this era than four full-out wars.

I haven't really pinned down a use for the spheres on the Fat Cat. I've thought about it being force field generators, or indeed part of the drive system.

Oh, and one last note: There's no ENT involved in this. Except perhaps for some names and places, the events of ENT take place in a different timeline, created by Borg Queen Enterprise-E Rick Berman.

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Jason Abbadon
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quote:
Originally posted by Harry:
[QB] ANYWAY

How's this for a Kzinti ship?

I dig it! A very organic ship design (espically for the tme era).
One thing that would look good and improve the overall sense of scale would be to have dozens of small plates to the sphere instead of the few huge plates you have currently.
Small subtle details on a large ship give that sense of "big ship" scale that the aztec patterns on Fed ships try to achieve.

Are the forward spkie things a large railgun?
If so, the aft spikes would be the long range version for nailing a planet's population centers from a system's edge.

I think those huge round things on the sides could be subspace antenna/ recievers: something very high tech for the time period. The Kzin could be more advanced that Starfleet in communication even if they lag behind in weapons or engine power.

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Masao
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Does it have to be perfectly spherical? You could make it look a bit more aggressive by making it slightly more cigar shaped (decreasing height and width but maintaining length). Doing so would might require a few changes in paneling.

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Jason Abbadon
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I'd keep the main capital sips as they are and add in a few sleeker escort cruisers as Masao suggested (being more cigar shaped from a side perspective).

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*bump*

Harry's recent 'LF Class' thread reminded me that I've had this sat on my hard drive for the last few months. With all the hard drive swapping I was doing I forgot all about it, 'till now.

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Could we get an enlargement of that Kzin insignia there, Reverend?

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That is really, really cool Rev! [Eek!]

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Which way is the front?

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I assume it's the left side, but it could be either.

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Jason Abbadon
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Nice job.
....for some reason I have the urge to play Frogger.

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Watch out! Blue frogs are poisonous.

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