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Jason Abbadon
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That;s it.
I'm taking pics of my version this week to share.
I have the nacelles on short pylins steming away from the torp launcher and a small oval pod structure under the torp launcher (a piece taken from a tiny 3900th Excelsior mini}.
It looks plausable.

I really don't think the ship could be assembled from parts unless there is a small engineering section in the saucer from some unseen class already built into it and a core ejection system or the core itself in the ship's neck or in a pod built into the launcher complex.

Not standard parts on a Connie Refit in any case.

I like the idea of many of these ships patrolling the NZ border in Kirk's day and re-commisioned for the same job (with updates in weaponry) once the Dominion started pushing into Fed space.

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REFERENC'D !!

http://geocities.com/stargazer2893a/Images/frankenstein/Constitution_variant_side.jpg
http://geocities.com/stargazer2893a/Images/frankenstein/Constitution_variant_top.jpg
http://ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/ds9tm/conny-variant-captmike.jpg
http://captainmike.org/Galactopedia/c3.html#Constant-class

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I would go for new builds myself, mainly out of personal preferance. Strafleet would have needed a modern destroyer design at that time and the Polaris fits perfectly so why have it as a shipbash (not to mention the difficulties in moving all the engineering stuff up to the saucer). As for why not refits; well, basically because I would prefer Starfleet not to have simply refit every single pre-linear warpdrive vessel with linear technology.
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Jason Abbadon
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Uh...What he said! [Big Grin]

Sad that my three and a half inch long model should be so superior to the actual filming model.

Jeff, you built this yet?

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ok, so was there or wasn't there a source for calling a ship of this class the Polaris or did somebody say that didnt actually happen? i dont have the LUG sourcebook, but i'd like to know if that was true or not.

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quote:
Originally posted by Jason Abbadon:
Jeff, you built this yet?

Not yet, but a version of it is on my list. I started on about two years ago, before I'd ever seen any pics of the ship mentioned here that's in the DS9:TM.

There are two guys over at CultTVman's SciFi Modeling Forum have some dual-nacelled destroyer designs. I forget the exact thread title, but recall the posters as being Dr. Brad and Rabbit.

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Well, I just sent an e-mail message to Graham Kennedy the author of the "Daystrom Institute Technical Library" Web site asking him for verification.

But I think the following comments that he wrote are pretty clear from his "Comments" page:

quote:

Another of the ships from the DS9 technical manual, this ship is a kit bash of the standard movie era Constitution. I named it "Polaris" after the pole star, because of that stars (apparent) proximity to the big dipper - the ship looks something like an upside-down ladle, you see. At least, it does to me!

As with all the kit bashed ships, the text is designed to explain why such an abomination of a ship came to exist. For the sake of variety, I've put this ship as having been a "normal" class which has been in service for a long time, rather than an improvisation prompted by the Dominion war.

The reduction in phaser armament is my own invention, since it seemed silly to have a ship like this with practically the same armament as a heavy cruiser. Ditto the torpedoes - I'm not sure just where the Constitutions other two tubes are, but I'd bet it's in the engineering hull somewhere so I vanished them. The crew and mass figures come from the DS9 Technical Manual, and are the only parts other than the size comparison image that do - that book gives the Polaris a top speed of Warp 9.6 and Type 10 phasers, which is just ridiculous in my opinion. Given the huge number of glitches which riddle the DS9 TM, most especially in this section, this is just one of those times I'm - reluctantly - going my own way rather than towing the official line.

To my knowledge, we've never seen a Polaris class on screen.


You can connect to his site to verify this yourselves if you wish:

Daystrom Institute Technical Library

Hopefully Graham will respond and we can put this mattter to rest. [Wink]

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Well, Triton, you may be honored by the class ship I named my version of that DS9 kitbash after a couple of years ago:

My model of the USS Neptune

By the way, there is a small scale issue with the model. The main pylon connecting the dorsal to the nacelles is the bendable pylons from Voyager, so there's a little scale-fudging going on.

Oh, and the DS9 Tech Manual lists this ship as a Light Cruiser.

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Graham Kennedy sent me the following e-mail message:

quote:
I did indeed name this ship polaris (hey, I sound like a
launching ceremony!) on my website, as explained in the
Comments section. If you flip the ship upside down
it's kinda like a big dipper, hence polaris after the
pole star

This game you mention ( Star Trek RPG by LUG --Triton) may have copied my site. Or somebody
else may have copied my site, then this game copied them.
Or maybe they came up with their own name and just used the
same name as I did by coincidence. I have no idea, I'm not
really into Star Trek games. When did it come out? The date
on my comments page is March 99, which would be some time
after I got my DS9 tech manual and did an entry on the ship.

See we know that Graham did indeed name this ship Polaris.


SoundEffect --- Thanks for the link to your model! [Cool] I like it very much!!!!!! I also like how you determined the NCC registry number of this starship. So I presume that you didn't like the idea of it being a DS9 era kitbash either looking at the four digit registry number?

I see that you named the class for the moon of Neptune named Triton. [Big Grin] When I read it, it gave me a chuckle.

I chose my alias because the god Triton is described as the torso and head of a man and the lower body of a fish. I thought that this alias would be appropriate for me because of my love of SCUBA and rebreather diving and interest in marine biology and diving physiology. I didn't want to have an alias like SCUBABoy, DiverDown, WreckDiver, JacquesCousteauWorshipper, or RebreatherBoy. [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by Triton:
SoundEffect --- Thanks for the link to your model! [Cool] I like it very much!!!!!! I also like how you determined the NCC registry number of this starship. So I presume that you didn't like the idea of it being a DS9 era kitbash either looking at the four digit registry number?

I see that you named the class for the moon of Neptune named Triton. [Big Grin] When I read it, it gave me a chuckle

Well, the parts were well established (minus Intrepid Class parts) from the movie era. My girlfriend worked at the Neptune Theatre for a couple of years and I wanted to name it in her honor so when I chose the name Neptune, I had to have a number. I was going to use the theatre's phone number or something else of significance, but decided upon the street address. It coincidentally fit the era of saucer for refit craft. If Mirandas were still around by the Dominion War, why couldn't Triton Class vessels??

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Of course, Polaris isn't in the big dipper...
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Yeah, but I didn't want to seem like a know it all smart alleck since I was asking him for some information.
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