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As I'm in the midst of building the AMT Warbird even as this thread began, I have done some research for my own references and I've found that two variants do exist, although I don't know if modifications were made to one model or if another was built.
Two things I've definitely found on version 2 that were not on the original was the claw-like structures on the forward underside of the main hull, and the linear details on the outboard warp nacelles. Just thought I'd share.
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This is the grey DS9-ship from "The Die is Cast", with claws. If there are two different models instead of one, it would explain their return.
And I think the additional applications on the nacelles are one of the most notable changes. At least it was the first thing I noticed.
I've had a close look at the CGI-Warbird and ironically I think the CG-team worked from the drawings from the Encyclopedia and later DS9TM instead of the actual model. Most notably the real Warbird has an asymetrical tail (my second attempt) while the official image's tail is completely symmetrical (first attempt). The CGI-Warbird has a symmetrical tail. Furthermore, the nose section's lower end seems to be split up and curved backwards a little. And the nacelles got the "Eaves-touch" (longer and sharper). All these little details tell me that Foundation did not have access to the shooting model (and I do not think that it was ment to be a minor redress; if that's the case, they would have put in more detail. This thing was ment for background shooting only).
Do you think it's the right gree color? I'm pretty sure I got the overall green right, but the darker areas look fake. Maybe it's just me, but... I don't know. Suggestions?
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I hadn't really noticed the pronounced difference in the tail section before, I've never built a CG version of the ship, only the AMT model kit which had a symetrical tail end. You live and learn, eh?
Colour on a model is a very relative thing. Speaking as a CG artist I know first-hand how much ambient lighting and surroundings effect how a ship looks, often I'll colour a ship as i think it looks in the drawings or series only to find it looks wrong when lit in context in a scene. I studied some of Greg Jiens shuttle models and noted the slightly yellow colouring, yet the minute you stick it under bright lights the specularity and glossiness cause it to turn almost white. I think when it comes to colour, in the absence of the real shooting model anyway, your guess is about as good as anybody elses.
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Colour? I'd personally make it a little lighter and maybe add a touch of brown to the mix. Actually, the darker colour you're using in the recessed areas would probably be perfect for the overall/main colour if it was lightened up. Am I making any sense?
BTW, is it just me or are the Warbirds from "Die is Cast" just as green as the rest?
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id read up on probert's and the modelmakers design.. seems to me i recall this ship being greenish but not really being green, but showing up on screen looking green so its referred to as green forever after.. just like the artists wanted the 1701D to be blue and it came out grey on screen
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quote:Originally posted by Axeman 3D: I hadn't really noticed the pronounced difference in the tail section before, I've never built a CG version of the ship, only the AMT model kit which had a symetrical tail end.
Actually, the AMT kit is surprisingly accurate as far as I can tell. The tail section IS NOT symmetrical...it definitely has the little upward curve to it as seen in Cpt. Kyle's revised diagram.
Cpt. Kyle, would it benefit you drawing to have pics of the AMT warbird pieces, even though my model is not all together yet?
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Could the apparent color difference between the real big Warbirds be the same as with the miniature? The miniature is dark grey for all I know, and becomes green through the lighting. Maybe it's possible that the Warbird is sometimes self-lighted with green spotlights and sometimes not.
The "authentic color" of the schematic would depend on that. I would suggest that the "pale" variant of the Warbird (if this is a color variant) is actually still green, but looks grey simply because it's dark.
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