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AndrewR
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I can't remember if someone posted this link in another thread before - but I want to post it (again). I rarely go to TrekBBS but I was there after looking at trektoday.com and saw this thread: http://www.trekbbs.com/threads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=3900511&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=7&fpart=1

Some of these are not too shabby! The Kirk on the brige one - the first pic is quite effective.

I also quite like The Guardian of Forever, Starbase 12 and Mohave City oh and Reno Floyd's version of the shuttle returning to Enterprise. Anyone else got any comments?

Some of them are crappy and are quite obviously 'touched up'/'mucked around with'. I wouldn't mind having ago at doing something like this myself.

The better ones are the more subtle changes... lighting on the bridge, replacing the sky in pics with more realistic clouds etc. Fiddling with the brightness/contrast etc.

Anyone else done something similar?

The most effective on there (apart from Kirk on the Bridge) is the Guardian of Forever, I think. Gives the 'set' a little more scope!

The closest I've done is this 'poster' type pic:

http://flareupload.pleh.net/uploads/44/halkaii.jpg

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TrekBBS has kind of a bad rap over here, but by god, they have some tslented artists over there. Vektor, the mod of the Art Forum is especially talented, especially his Constitution rendering..
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Wow! I don't know about the suacer section, but the nacelle and engineering sections look like you could reach out and touch them!

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[Eek!] Holy cow that's a nice ship. The TrekBBS pictures aren't bad either, most of them.


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Thats very nice....(following link)
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Interesting, but it's more a fun exercise than anything actually practical. There's a world of difference between altering a frame and altering moving shots.

True, I doubt I'm the only one who is happy that he can now watch the Empire Strikes Back without screaming "WHY ARE THERE NO WINDOWS IN CLOUD CITY", but I'm not sure there's a market for this sort of thing. Some of the shots look like changes for changes sake, and as we saw (an by we, I mean me) with the Red Dward Remastered series, often those sorts of things just end up annoying the fans.

Not that I wouldn't like sexy new Constitution shots, but the episodes would then stop being TOS and start being an exercise in "spot the difference".

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Well I liked this little things that I didn't actually notice - like I mentioned in my first post - the sky in the scene with Guardian of Forever just made the planet look more REAL - that's a problem with a lot of the planet scenes in TOS and TNG season 1. I think if they did it with things like replacing the Enterprise - it would have to look pretty much IDENTICAL to the TOS version - and match the 'feel' of the era's effects - and same film grain etc - not just cgi spliced in.

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quote:
Originally posted by AndrewR:
I think if they did it with things like replacing the Enterprise - it would have to look pretty much IDENTICAL to the TOS version - and match the 'feel' of the era's effects - and same film grain etc - not just cgi spliced in.

Which would pretty much be pointless, wouldn't it?

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Looks more real than the real model used in the show.

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quote:
Originally posted by PsyLiam:
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Originally posted by AndrewR:
I think if they did it with things like replacing the Enterprise - it would have to look pretty much IDENTICAL to the TOS version - and match the 'feel' of the era's effects - and same film grain etc - not just cgi spliced in.

Which would pretty much be pointless, wouldn't it?
You don't get what I'm saying. Basically - the effects of the ship would have to tie in seemlessly with the show - still have BETTER effects but no effects that are "blatant cgi" - and this would require more diligence and talent on behalf of the effects team.

I mean you can't have the old film and then it cut to a digital-quality obviously-cgi-looking ship maneuvering through an asteroid field better than the Defiant!

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The link on the picture doesn't work. Where can one see more of this person's artwork?

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quote:
Originally posted by AndrewR:
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Originally posted by PsyLiam:
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Originally posted by AndrewR:
I think if they did it with things like replacing the Enterprise - it would have to look pretty much IDENTICAL to the TOS version - and match the 'feel' of the era's effects - and same film grain etc - not just cgi spliced in.

Which would pretty much be pointless, wouldn't it?
You don't get what I'm saying. Basically - the effects of the ship would have to tie in seemlessly with the show - still have BETTER effects but no effects that are "blatant cgi" - and this would require more diligence and talent on behalf of the effects team.
No, I get that, I'm just saying it's pointless. Yes, redoing "The Doomsday Machine" would be nice, but 90% of the shows involved the Enterprise orbiting a planet. Having the Enterprise instead orbit a planet WITH CLOUDS just strikes me as being completely pointless.

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Jason Abbadon
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Well, they could at least give us more than the two stock shots of the Enterprise Orbiting the planet....

Personally, I'd prefer updated TNG effects: the update would not be so glaring that way and many of the scaling errors coud be corrected.

I want to see small KBOPS, huge Warbirds and VorChas replacing the KBOPS in The Defector.

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And this is what has driven George Lucas insane, boys and girls.
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I thought it was that last Indiana Jones movie.

...or the countless yes-men that tell him he's God.

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