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Also, I think we're talking a bit past each other here.
I don't want to contest the idea that Curzon Dax was a Federation diplomat who held at least honorary UFP citizenship. I just want to point out that this in no way dictates that Trill would have to have been a UFP member at the time.
The case could have been identical to Worf's (a single member of the species comes to be UFP citizen due to exceptional circumstances, the grows up to be a diplomat), or then subtly different (e.g. a distinguished person gets citizenship as reward for his services / incentive to continue said services).
Finally, whether or not Trill was a member in year X or only joined in year Y gives us little information about the location of the Trill home system. Being that secretive, they could be natives of Alpha Centauri for all we know, and still unknown two days before TNG "The Host"; being that long-lived and (if Dax and Odan are any indication) cosmopolitan, they could come from the far side of M51 and still be present at Jonathan Archer's bar mizvah.
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I feel responsible for bringing up the Trill, I guess, so I feel like reiterating that I never meant to imply that they had to be original members; simply that it isn't impossible that they are, and that there are more mentions of Trill in the original series era (1) than there are for some other UFP members.
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I'm into the idea of Trill as, if not founding, then early Fed members. From Enterprise we do know some of those founding members, don't we? I can't remember which episode now. I remember there were Tellarites and Vulcans, of course. Andorians too I think. Someone who doesn't drink as much should really answer this question.
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quote:Originally posted by HerbShrump: There is a difference between diplomat and ambassador?
Anyone representing a country on a given matter is a diplomat, but Ambassador is a assigned post and serves as a power's official representative to another government.
Not that it makes Trill membership at the time of TOS crystal clear.
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On the question of the 'Trill', In ST:Enterprise, Travis Mayweather says that he's been as far as Trillius Prime, while growing up on a cargo freighter. Not a definitive comment on the the Trill's status within or without the Federation.
In the same episode, "Fight or Flight", Mayweather notes that Enterprise has already travelled farther than he had ever gone in his childhood travels. This seems to suggest that Trillius is very close to Earth, at least by Warp Five standards.
In the TNG episode that introduced the Trill, (Can't remember the title and too tired to look), they were a friendly but mysterious species. When DS9 came around, and the character of Dax, Trill history got a bit of a retrofit. In "Trials and Tribble-ations", Jadzia remarks about meeting TOS' Doctor McCoy while he was still in med-school.
All the references to the Trill support the idea that they were known, but NOT founding, or even members of the fledgling Federation.
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First, screw the terrible TNG episode. Seriously- it's awful.
Second, Mayweather might have ben referring to Enterprise having traveled to far more localles than he ever did. I doubt Enterprise is traveling on the straight-line freight runs his dad's ship went on.
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I'd go along with that. So where are the Deltans from... Delta? The internet says Delta IV. Do we have any info on where that might be?
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don't think that map is actually close to being cannon, using Episoln-Indi as reference direction North-East (towards what i think is the Delta Quadrant), isn't Wolf-357 supposed to towards 'thata-way?'
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