A link to the Endeavour design would be nice as well.
SO we can all bask in the winner's "originality".
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I think Titan Class would work well for the model design , but as said above the specs would never work for a Luna class. For the Mace I would like to see more close up pics of the model . I think it would work well for a long long range deep space ship.
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I want to know why the saucer phaser banks are one continuous piece. I mean the Galaxy Class is pretty long as it is... I can only imagine the recharge rates. It makes more sense to do a setup similar to the Ambassador Class saucer phaser banks.
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Except that, from a production design point of view, surely the point of putting shorter strips on the Ambassador was to imply an intermediate technology, less advanced than the D's strips.
But anyway, I don't think we can say much (if anything) about the costs and benefits of various phaser strip lengths.
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PLus, we've seen the Galaxy's long strips fire multiple beams, so it's probably not an issue by the era of the Dominion War.
On early TNG, it sometimes seemed to take a long time for the beam to travel the length of the phaser ring to the point where it fired from the ship though....mabye the fire rate increases once it's "heated up"?
Either way, if thos is a Nemesis era ship, it cold have a bunch of those goofy "pop-up" micro(?) torepedo launchers as well.
I agree that the Titan winning desihn could easily become a physical model, but as long as we're building something 80% Akira anyway, I'd rather have the real thing.
Once Akira parts are mastered, you could always offer a conversion kit for the basic Sovvie.
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That or make a late 24th Century Soverprise...
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I did originally agree with Simon about the Ambassador's strips being less advanced, but then I remembered that the Intrepid-class also has it's phaser strips split in two.
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Note: I'm not suggesting that this is the "in-universe" explanation. Just that, when the call went out to design an Enterprise that looked like it fit in between the Excelsior and the Galaxy, breaking up the phaser strips was probably an attempt to imply progress.
I don't believe there's ever been a suggestion, in the show, that the D's longer strips were more powerful than her shorter ones, for what it's worth. I know the technical manual has a little to say about how the strips work, but I don't have my copy at hand and don't remember the details.
My point was just that there's not really any reason to think that such a long strip would be inefficient or unworkable, barring, of course, something in the tech manual that I'm not aware of.
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quote:Originally posted by Sol System: Note: I'm not suggesting that this is the "in-universe" explanation. Just that, when the call went out to design an Enterprise that looked like it fit in between the Excelsior and the Galaxy, breaking up the phaser strips was probably an attempt to imply progress.
I don't believe there's *snip*
I know. I was agreeing. Calm down.
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I may be in the moinority, but I've always rthought the Ambassador looked far too advanced for such an old design.
Though it's concievable the ship originally sported more Excelsior-ish details and we've only ever seen the result of several refits/upgrades.
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quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: I may be in the moinority, but I've always rthought the Ambassador looked far too advanced for such an old design.
Though it's concievable the ship originally sported more Excelsior-ish details and we've only ever seen the result of several refits/upgrades.
Old design? Going by that 10XXX registry are we? I always put that down to some sort of weird error. I'd say the Ambassadors are the vitage of 25-40 years prior TNG - the time of the Enterprise C.
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Yeah, I am going by that strange 10XXX registry for the Ambassador (though I dont know where that comes from, so it might be bullshit).
I'd (personaly) place the first Ambassadors in the 32XXX range so the ship is not aincent.
What's the highest registry nmber shown for an Ambassador class?
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68814, the Prokofiev, according to the encyclopedia. The majority are in the 2XXXX range.
I believe the Ambassador's registry is from the TNG tech manual, so take it as you like, but the Horatio has one in the ten thousands as well. (Though whether it was ever onscreen I couldn't say. The ship wasn't, of course.)
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For a class to have been around all those decades, you'd expect some major refitting (though not of the Miranda or Oberth, I guess, but still). I dont think we ever say anything onscreen on the Horatio's registry.
Strange to thin that Ambassadors were still being built alongside New Orleans and the other BOBW kitbashes, but it would support a theory of mine that certain shipyards concentrate on certain classes to maximize productivity...re-tooling/re-training could lead to some shipyards continuing production of older classes as general production slowed to a trickle.
Availibility of recources might be a factor out on the Fed borders as well.
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I would also think that each yard would specialize. If you look at US shipyards today there is a tendency to do so.
That would also help explain some of the similar sized ships all in service at once thing - they were built in different areas of the UFP and designed locally.
The Feds would certainly want to have as distributed a system of shipbuilding as possible but we have little canon support for that.
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