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Okay, here's the latest on my carrier idea, the U.S.S. Monticello. Tell me what you think. Be as critical as you feel the need for. I want to get her right in the spirit of the slightly-after-Pike-pre-TOS feel.
The only things I can think of is that the dome on top of the saucer looks too low if it's the bridge (which it might not be, so I'll shut up), and the registry on the back looks wierd , as if it can't decide if its comming or going!
Other than that eet's good-a shit!
EDIT One other thing I've just thought of - did you try it with pre-TOS nacelles (like we saw in 'the cage', or the early TOS nacelles without the lightbulb at the back and the cocktail stick in the front)?
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I like the front, but I'm thinking I'd like it more if the nacelles stuck straight out rather than angling down. Either that, or straight out, but angled towards the aft. Or angled upwards... I don't know. I just don't care for them angled down.
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So, the home pregnantcy test at the frot holds the shuttles?
It's not a bad design, but I'd also like to see older style nacelles on it, and the registry facting forward- it looks odd with it on the aft surface.
What I'd love to see though is the cylinder part lower than it is now-extending downward from the "saucer" by a "neck" piece. Currently the only weak point in the design is where the cylinder and saucer join, and this would solve the issue and make for a less klingon-looking design.
Hmmm...mabye have clamshell door at the rear of the cylinder in the new configuration...
Am I making any sense to you here? Here: I made a horrible Photoshop version of what I mean:
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That's a neat design, Irishman! I echo the opinions of those who say that the registry should face forward and the nacelles should be pilot-style, however. Also, I think Jason's suggested modifications do indeed improve the lines of the ship, but that's probably more modification than you're a-wanting to be a-doing...
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Sure, I may make a variant of the design taking into account your changes, Jason. Yet, the point of what I did here was to just take one of Jefferies' concepts and develop it as far as we've seen the Connie taken, visually.
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Yah, I know- but he made a sketch very close the configuration I laid out as well (I think), so any variant will still be in the theme.
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Besides, if I change it the way you suggested (great layout, it looks even cooler turned upside down!), then it wouldn't work very well as a carrier. The straight-line conveyor from landing bay/repair/refuel bay back along the neck to the main hangar is designed with utilitarianism in mind. Breaking up that straight line makes conveyance from front to back less efficient.
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Upside-down it looks like a grinning, one-eyed duck.
Hmm....I was thinking of the whole forward pill-shaped part as the hangar/repair/refuel section and the rest of the ship holding ship's functions, crew quarters, engines, etc.
The lowest level would be the shuttle recieving bay (connected to the clamshell) with elevators rising up to a repair bay and then up one more deck into a launchbay (sliding hangar doors on either side of the "pill". More like the landing bays on the old Galactica than anything we've seen on Trek, but cool in a Romulan War sorta way. The very forward of the bay holds flight ops while the ship's bridge is at the rear circular part.
Mabye the "pill" is a swappable module for the starship? Kinda a a mix of the Nebula's mission specific pod and the Plotmey's pods of cargo.
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Jason, cool idea, but have you worked out how many shuttles or fighters you could actually fit in the forward section? I did. That's why I was forced to put hangar space in the rear hull.
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I think that the Monticello is a very cool design, Irishman. In general I agree that it should have the Pike-era nacelles. Concerning the feel of the ship, I think that it generally is actually a quite solid design � the forward hull is by necessity simple and blocky. I think the best change would be to the lower half of the engineering hull � something to make it a bit more complex and visually interesting. Maybe something similar to the aft cutaway on the Constitution?
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quote:Originally posted by Irishman: Jason, cool idea, but have you worked out how many shuttles or fighters you could actually fit in the forward section? I did. That's why I was forced to put hangar space in the rear hull.
Hmmm...go with a bigger "pill" or smaller shuttles! The ol' "penguin" shuttle or even the NX's shuttlepods would fit quite a few in there (assuming they store up into hangars like on the NX-01). Probably 15-20 shuttlepod-sized vessells could be stored with room for maintence and launch/recovery ops.
Not a huge number, but it's not a huge ship, either.
Might also be neat to see a "boomer" version from the Romulan war, where the pill is just a biiig missile silo with launch-tubes honeycombing it.
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