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I swapped out the original overly-wide drawing for a new one with more definitive nacelles and some hull detailing for effect. These nacelles are a development of ones I've used before, but I'm not sure if I like them so much. Maybe straight ones are better.
Priimary hull: I thought about an asymmetrical hull, but since symmetrical hulls were used by later ships (Wasp and Moskva), I didn't want to introduce one on this ship. However, this hull shape is new by being neither a ball or an egg. The equator is flat enough, I think without adding a flat-sided slice.
Neck: I also considered an angled neck, but it made the ship look less aggressive. (Showing the front of the neck is a submissive posture in animals.) If the neck and primary hull are raised, then the secondary hull doesn't have to have that ventral extension, which is a chief part of the design. Also, I wanted to have a horizontal neck like Daedalus. This ship is probably late 2160s to early 2170s, so borrows quite a bit from Daedalus. Running the neck all the way to tail I think is excessive. The ship already has those long nacelles, so visually I think it's too much. Also, I'm not going to put the nacelle supports through the neck. That's one thing I really hate about Daedalus!
History: Minutiae, you're spot on.
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quote:Originally posted by Sean: The nacells make it look bloated.
Yeah, I agree. I'm still working stuff out. I just started this drawing yesterday.
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Hmm...you're right about the new nacelles. A little odd. Maybe if they were a little bigger at the front than at the back? This posited extrapolation of the ST XI Enterprise kind of shows what I mean. Like flare the fronts a little, or "bulb" them...
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quote:Originally posted by Shik: Hmm...you're right about the new nacelles. A little odd. Maybe if they were a little bigger at the front than at the back? This posited extrapolation of the ST XI Enterprise kind of shows what I mean. Like flare the fronts a little, or "bulb" them...
Yikes! I want to get as far away from that as possible!
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quote:Originally posted by Masao: Yikes! I want to get as far away from that as possible!
I concur thoroughly. It looks like a badly drawn, ready-to-fall-over TOS ship.
That said, it's easy to fall into a sort of TOS era trap, wherein everything looks sorta like a badly drawn Connie.
Speaking of, may I replace the original Asia with Bernd's revised Asia for you in the Cruiser Chart? Pretty please? Nothin' but love for ya, but I gotta say it sticks out like a sore Conniewannabe thumb.
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That "extrapolation" of the Movie E is fucking ugly! The nacells look like they got stuck in a trash compactor. Scotty DEFFINATELY wont be having any dreams about that...pug.
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quote:Originally posted by Shik: Hmm...you're right about the new nacelles. A little odd. Maybe if they were a little bigger at the front than at the back? This posited extrapolation of the ST XI Enterprise kind of shows what I mean. Like flare the fronts a little, or "bulb" them...
Looks like the E is suffering from Elephantiasis. May I ask where got it from? It's not so bad, it looks like a sturdier version of Re-imagined Enterprise from a while back. Though I don't like the idea of the E having neck strut torpedo tubes before TMP.
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I agree with Reverend about the neck. If you think it's excessive to take it all the way back, well, it's your baby But I do think in that case the neck should be brought "down." That 'hump' where the neck joins the secondary hull sort of makes it look like the Starship of Notre Dame
Movie extrapolation: Ah GOD! What the FUCK? Those nacelles look they have a botfly infection. Yuck.
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There's no way in hell the nacelles are going to look like that. The maker of that extrapolation is being fooled, I hope, by that front view from the trailer in which the bussards look enormous.
Dan Butler: The rounded end of the neck might be a good place for a shuttle bay. "Humpback" is not a bad thing for this ship. I want it to look a bit monstrous.
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Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that there were rumors of there being multiple versions of the E due to the Romulans altering history. God knows what they'll come up with.
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quote:Originally posted by Masao: Yikes! I want to get as far away from that as possible!
I don't mean EXACTLY like that...but like...pointier bussard caps, a & a slight flare at the fore end with a gentle taper back. Enough to give a sense of overpoweredness with a smoother like. Like...argh. Hard to explain. I could draw it, but I can't scan it.
quote:Originally posted by Mars Needs Women: Looks like the E is suffering from Elephantiasis. May I ask where got it from? It's not so bad, it looks like a sturdier version of Re-imagined Enterprise from a while back. Though I don't like the idea of the E having neck strut torpedo tubes before TMP.
It's from trek BBS, I think...someone did it based on what was shown in the trailer. And yeah, it's a lot better than the Koernerprise. My only real problem is with the winglet/intercooler size. And the pylon flanging, but that's understandable for things.
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But I do think in that case the neck should be brought "down." That 'hump' where the neck joins the secondary hull sort of makes it look like the Starship of Notre Dame ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
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