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Is there a missing article from your folder? There seems to be a gap between 2200-2220.
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quote:Originally posted by Shik: So, I present the first 4 articles for your perusal:
Foundation covers the founding of the Federation and Starfleet in 2161, with a minor recapping of the Romulan War. (9 pgs.)
Unity covers 2162 through 2175. (10 pgs)
Trailblazer details ships from 2186 to 2202, interim history from 2175. (12 pgs.)
--->Deeprange runs from 2221 to 2242, with interim history from 2200. (17 pgs.)<---
There used to be an article twixt Trailblazer & Deeprange called Third Wave. It was deemed redundant, cannibalized & elements reused in the other articles, &the ships first deleted, then repurposed & put at the start of Deeprange.
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Gotcha. And I just noticed there's a gap from 2175-2186, too, obviously for the same reason.
I like it a lot. Interesting rationalizations for things like the Constitution numbering anomalies. Lots of interesting stories and tidbits (like Garth and Section 31, a twist I should've seen coming sooner than I did). Your insight into why the Klingons despise the Humans makes a lot of sense too (surgical strikes and proportional retaliation insult their honor). I don't really have any specific feedback, it holds together very tightly.
Will you be adding other pages on specific ships? Or linking to references? Some of the classes I'm already familiar with, but others seem to be your own design.
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Wow, actual feedback!
Right, there's no reason to believe that introduction of new classes is continuous & constant.
Glad to hears it reads well & fits together. The edits to streamline we're large. You can get a sense of it by comparing the first four with Sentinel. I try to take the time to make my reasonings be plausible rather than "wow, that's cool!"; I feel it makes for a better product. The Garth scandal took a lot of time because I wanted to do it right, without falling into the traps others do/did (such as yet another mad admiral, or the constant overuse of Section 31 as villains) & linking that to a larger thing helped me put Nogura where I wanted him to be. There's also a neat irony in that the fall of Starfleet's 2nd hero led to the 1st becoming its new head, who then paves the way for the rise of the 3rd. But Nogura is very well fleshed out in my mind, to the point where I could do a doctoral thesis on him.
I also try to stay away from two things I really hate: the need to tie every little thing in (something that's the bane of the recent novel verse) & making every known canonical fact a major thing. For example, many have Bryce Shumar of Essex being this well-known captain, when in fact it was more like "...Bryce who?" So I barely mentioned the ship in passing, & that as an incidental. Unless it's really important, it's not necessary to mention. Sentinel was/is hard because there's so MUCH to mention, & it can't all be handled in a straightforward linear fashion; it HAS to jump around, back & forth.
Class-specific pages will eventually be written in the future; they are the promise of new content when the site eventually goes up. These generational articles provide the initial introduction & framing of the times, & are, I feel, a good starter set when all of them are done. As for the classes themselves, there are designs set for all post-Foundation classes but 2, at the far end near 2400, & are being worked on currently. There are 12 Foundation classes that have no design as yet, all nonhuman ships, & I would work those out with whomever ends up drawing them. That's the thing: I will need an artwork partner, because some things need redraws or edits, & others are merely quick pen-&-ink sketches. But again, that's for the future.
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Does anyone know if this project ever got finished?
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In fact, I DO know if this project ever got finished.
The answer is no, is has not been finished....but it is very close to being finished. Currently, I have the outline built for the very last article piece & am doing the physical edits on the penultimate one. When I finally finish the last one, I'm going to take a month or so off before beginning the 2nd-round edits to further shape it, then it goes to the the reading team. With luck, I will be in a place both creatively & financially to begin work on the actual website well before the end of this year, but the end of the year is the goal.
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I know no one cares right now, but I'm gonna say it anyway.
Today I finished the first draft of the last framing article for this fucking project.
I'm gonna take a few days, edit it, then print everything baxk out & start second-round edits before tossing it to the reading team.
This basically means I can die now.
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That’s great news, Shik! I know all about those long-term projects that seem to never end. I look forward to seeing it.
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SOON.
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Finished second-round edits on Monday; started inputting to digital files immediately. Got 3 done so far–off to the beta readers afterward.
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Thanks! Expect an email in the next 2 or 3 weeks.
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Wow, excellent news Shik. I know you have busted your hump to complete this. Congrats on the awesome progress.
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