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Named after the very fine actor Charles Napier, no doubt. The dedplaque needs a quote from one of his roles as the motto. If not "Headin' now to Eden, yeah brother," then may I suggest ones from "Blues Brothers" or "The Critic."
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Very nice, Harry! Bernd sent me your sketches, but this schematic looks even better. A few suggestions: 1) You left off the grey end bit of the nacelles on the side view. 2) A large registry should probably appear on the top of the primary hull with the ship's name smaller. 3) The nacelle supports should be on the line from the center of the secondary hull to the center of the nacelle. You might also make them a bit thicker from the front and back. 4) The nacelle pennants (and maybe the secondary hull pennant) should be slightly visible on the top view. 5) I'd beef up the attachment point of the neck to the secondary hull. 6) The shading on the front view looks a bit funny. For the circular gradient fill, place the dark color outside and the lighter color inside, then place the center of the fill (the light color) at the point the highlight would fall at the top of the ship. You appear to have put the dark color at the center and placed it at the bottom of the ship. 7) Those sets of three bars on the sides of the deflector mount should probably be placed on all around rather than just on the sides.
Re: Napier. I've used the name Napier for some of my nacelles. I give names to nacelles after the British tradition of giving names to engines (Merlin, Griffon, etc). Napier was a car and engine company that made a famous aircraft engine called the Napier Lion.
If you're talking about Charles Napier, don't forget he was flayed and mounted like a moth in Silence of the Lambs. Maybe the motto could be "AAAAIIIIIEEEEE!!! My Liver!!!!!"
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Nice Harry, if you get some updated pics after Masao's suggestions I will as I said be happy to model them- this one and the Nichols class. I'm a big fan of TOS/pre TOS ships. But I've got eight meshes on the go at the moment, but I'll get round to them as soon a poss.
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1) You left off the grey end bit of the nacelles on the side view.
Hmmm. Those bits were definitely there on the original drawings. Werd. I also noticed the PowerClip elements are a bit mis-aligned.
2) A large registry should probably appear on the top of the primary hull with the ship's name smaller.
So, large rego and small name on top, instead of just name, as with Daedalus?
3) The nacelle supports should be on the line from the center of the secondary hull to the center of the nacelle. You might also make them a bit thicker from the front and back.
Sure, that can be arranged.
4) The nacelle pennants (and maybe the secondary hull pennant) should be slightly visible on the top view.
Hadn't thought of that.
5) I'd beef up the attachment point of the neck to the secondary hull.
I agree the front of the secondary hull looks a bit dull, but does anyone have any ideas how to make it look more interesting, without completely changing the look of the ship?
6) The shading on the front view looks a bit funny. For the circular gradient fill, place the dark color outside and the lighter color inside, then place the center of the fill (the light color) at the point the highlight would fall at the top of the ship. You appear to have put the dark color at the center and placed it at the bottom of the ship.
No, I experimented with a conical fill. Shading can make me go crazy from time to time
7) Those sets of three bars on the sides of the deflector mount should probably be placed on all around rather than just on the sides.
I looked at Daedalus model and noticed that the bars are not equally long. They seem to follow the deflector mount insets.
BTW, I have mastered your dark outline trick *evil grin*, but I won't use it, because it'll look a bit too much like your work
And yes, it DOES look like a bloody soda bottle, but the Nova looks like a pregnant bug, so there!
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Here I thought it was gonna be named for JACK Napier...
Then we could have had: USS Selina Kyle USS Oswald Cobblepot USS Edward Nygma USS Harvey Dent and USS Harley Quinn.
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2) A large registry should probably appear on the top of the primary hull with the ship's name smaller.
So, large rego and small name on top, instead of just name, as with Daedalus?
Oh... Daedalus style... Well, in that case, please ignore my advice. It's just that in later ships the registry is larger. The big name looks ok, but the registry should be put somewhere on the primary hull, not just on the sides of the secondary hull.
5) I'd beef up the attachment point of the neck to the secondary hull.
I agree the front of the secondary hull looks a bit dull, but does anyone have any ideas how to make it look more interesting, without completely changing the look of the ship?
How about a few concentric rings: the center most are smaller but taller, the outer are lower but wider (basically like a circular step pyramid). Check out the attachment of the head of Discovery from 2001.
6) The shading on the front view looks a bit funny. For the circular gradient fill, place the dark color outside and the lighter color inside, then place the center of the fill (the light color) at the point the highlight would fall at the top of the ship. You appear to have put the dark color at the center and placed it at the bottom of the ship.
No, I experimented with a conical fill. Shading can make me go crazy from time to time
I'm not familiar with the conical fill, but the front view of the ship is basically a simple sphere and can be shaded like sphere.
7) Those sets of three bars on the sides of the deflector mount should probably be placed on all around rather than just on the sides.
I looked at Daedalus model and noticed that the bars are not equally long. They seem to follow the deflector mount insets.
You're right. But I like it better with the bars all the way around.
BTW, I have mastered your dark outline trick *evil grin*, but I won't use it, because it'll look a bit too much like your work
I thought the dark outline was just a generic thing; I don't consider it any kind of personal trademark. I just think it looks nice.
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I have modified the ship. One new secondary hull, the registry has moved to the front of the deflector housing and the pennants were modified and added in the top views.
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