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i prepped this graphic to illustrate a point over at TrekBBS, but i figure everyone here wouldnt mind having a go at looknig at it.. basically just a comparison for comparing the design changes between the three canon connie variants and the other SotSF version that show the intermediate evolution (including the one designed to resemble the Phase 2 ship)
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Well actually, there were 4 Connie variants. The WNMHGB variant was different from the Cage variant in that the aft end of the nacelles had grills while the Cage version did not. But you really can't show that difference from side views. This is the real original configuration of the Connie. http://lobotomy.pleh.net/~flareupload/uploads/302/origent.jpg
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Okay. So where did these variants supposedly show up?
Original - "The Cage" Bonhomme Richard - !? Achernar 1 - Regular TOS Achernar 2 - !? Endeavor - non-canon Constitution Variant - Phase II model Tikopai - !? Enterprise - TMP America - !? What's the difference between America and Enterprise!?
No, I don't hate the good Captain's image. I hate this Constitution variant business. There's no way to say the Enterprise had grills that were later refit to balls, or pointy things that were later refit to rounded gizmos, because the ship usually had all of them in the same episode.
The only concrete element of the model that changed once and then never changed back, as far as I know, are the boxes on the nacelles.
I thought I could use the evolution of the Enterprise model as a way to date the episodes in some rigidly dull canon way, paying no heed to self-contradictory stardates or "arbitrary" airing or production orders. But it couldn't be done, for this reason.
At any rate, this isn't even as anal as it could be, because in some episodes we see the ship from the front and it has pointed spikes, and then in another shot we see the back and it has balls, or grills, or what have you. If we want to be totally balls to the wall canon, we need a whole set of sub-subclasses between each subclass. It is madness.
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Original - "The Cage" Bonhomme Richard - TAS Achernar 1 - Regular TOS Achernar 2 - non-canon Endeavor - non-canon Constitution Variant - Phase II model Tikopai - non-canon Enterprise - TMP America - non-canon, probably internal differences
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America has a bunch of noticeable differences, including a different impulse deck design, an aft-firing torpedo tube, "fatter" pylons, & a slightly enlarged deflector housing.
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EdipisReks
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i've always liked the Phase II enterprise. has anyone seen the TMP ad that showed up in comics, etc, that showed a version of the Enterprise that apparently came right out of the artists imagination? it looks somewhat like the Phase II version, but with more windows and different details. kind of like the Endeavor subclass, but a little bit more "movie era-ish" than that one. i think that one looks sweet.
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quote:Originally posted by Topher: Bonhomme Richard - TAS Achernar 1 - Regular TOS
If anything, you've got these backwards. The Enterprise was in Bonhomme Richard mode for TOS, and TAS actually looked pretty much the same... but it had the second bridge exit, a feature of the Achernar. To be specific, the Achernar is really just Franz Joseph's innacurate schematic from the Star Fleet Technical Manual. Note the secondary hull profile for the biggest flaw, as well as the Deck 2-3 bulge in top views.
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Anduril
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And even more actually, the first ship labeled as original is the WNMHGB ship. If only because it has the 4 lit panels on the upper side of the saucer. Well 3 lit ones and one unlit one but who is counting. And of course the profile of the secondary hull isn't quite right for either of the first two pilot versions but we can overlook that.
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