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I actually like both the 2 and 4 nacelle variants. Making alterations, like losing the second mirrored Excelsior saucer, and other customizations I can't see why both ships can't exist as separate conjectural classes.
I think the two nacelle version is too unlike the Loknar. They share a similar configuration, but any Loknar upgrade would be more like the refit Connie.
I like the Niagara fine. I speculate that the Galaxy style nacelles we see with the Princeton is only due to refit - or a second batch. After all, the Princeton's registry is NCC 58904, suggesting there was another batch of Niagaras in the middle of the 24th century, right at the time the New Orleans, and as the Galaxy prototype was under way.
Jason - Remora Class....?
Timo, I put this Medusa Class ship at the beginning of the 24th century, late 23rd at the earliest. Just a wild guess. But it could hail from later on, you're right.
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O.K. so nobody here is a Vulcan! Romulans? Excalibans with good skin? Whatever you are....kirk probably would have either hit on you or hit you. The Remora was a design from the old FASA game. It was a fast scoutship with only one nacelle. From the top it looked more like a stingray than a remora. I stand corrected on my theory about the origin of the Freedom design. It is indeed a salidin shaped ship. Another frying pan that I've modeled.
Red, have you ever built the Excelsior study models? One of them is real stretched out and sports four smaller nacelles. As for the Medusa, I say continue on the two nacelled version. I looks very cool.
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Ah yes, the Remora, I'm with you now. I'm not any great fan of it, only a few of the FASA ships have worthy designs. My favourites of the FASA ships are the Genser, Loknar (which I've built), Griffon, and the FASA Ambassador.
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Wow, that model is really cool-looking. I actually *like* this design. I don't know why people seem to have a problem with any ship that doesn't look like the Enterprise...
Nice work, Jason!
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Thanks! I never would have attempted it if THe Red admiral had not made it look kewel in his CGI version (back on page 1)and if Soundeffect had not made his 1/1000th scale model (his had the third nacelle up as per the DS9TM). My little model is only about 5" long too! Hopefully I'll be able to photograph my entire fleet next week (almost twice as big as the original one now).
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That's a nice model that, real sweet. This might inspire me to do some more modelling. I've been out of the loop and haven't done any for months now... Indeed, this is my first visit to Flare this year! Alas, I have just not had the time.
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The folks at StarshipModeler have already seen this, but as Jason mentioned abouve, here's my model of the "Medusa" using the single-nacelle-up variation (which I believe is the correct orientation):
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Build more CGI models Red! I'm using your Niagra as a reference on an ucoming model (although the filming version-and mine- has 5 phaser strips). I even have plans to build a phase I Excelsior as per your CGI. Your work rocks: don't stop now.
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Very nice model indeed Soundeffect, looks terrific. Although I must say that I do believe the configuration is two up, one down. The studio model seemed to be orientated this way, but even with one up two down, it still looks cool.
Thanks Middy Seafort, and good luck on the Viagra Jason, it was a tough one to build in CGI actually. As for giving up, it's more a matter of just not having the time to do it. I used to be able to build a full ship in two or three days. Now any modelling work I do will find large gaps of time between each session, and as such it will be slow going.
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I've already heard the arguments about the 'coolness factor' being the deciding point in favor of the two nacelle up theory, but that doesn't quite cut it. My reasoning for the single nacelle up is:
1) I feel the studio pic that was released actually shows the bottom and not the top. IN the cases of ALL the other DS9 kitbashes, model stand holes were drilled into the bottom of the models only, not the tops.
2) The DS9 Tech Manual shows it to be single nacelle up. Since we can't find the ship on-screen with any certainty, that's as canon as we have. (And yes, of course it could've been a mistake in the manual as the Jem'Hadar Cruiser was upside down)
3) Although the saucer is made from two tops and therefore technically has two bridges, the single necelle up orientation has a bridge module that is more ornately colored than on the other side. The other bridge is painted entirely copper. Looking at both, the copper one suddenly looks more like a sensor platform than a main bridge.
I'd really like to hear some convincing arguments for the two-nacelle up orientation, again, besides the 'coolness factor'. The ship has to have an 'up'. I'm interested in hearing what points are in favor of the two nacelles up version.
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