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Doesn't Dreamweaver have a HTML clean up option? I used it on a friends system, removed extra tags and all that....
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If you had a Mac, you could get BBEdit or BBEdit Lite. It's basically a text editor, but it's specifically designed for all sorts of hand-coding -- HTML, Perl, PHP, and just about any other programming language you'd care to use. (And according to their website, "It doesn't suck.�")
I use Dreamweaver to put my site together, and get the basics of my pages ready, but then I go into BBEdit and do some manual clean-up work. It's a pretty good balance -- there's no way I could have hand-coded the table that was needed to create the flashy button interface for my front page -- but there were also bugs in that same table that prevented the code from validating properly with W3C.
I guess you could say... it's the best of both worlds. (*groan*)
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quote:Originally posted by E. Cartman: /me still uses trusty ol' Notepad for all things HTML, PHP, and Javascript. Works better than any frontend utility, and there's something to be said for doing things manually.
Yes. That people who do things manually have more time on their hands than a lot of other people.
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I don't even have a webpage. So, all this talk of webpage design sounds like a waste of time to me.
Dreamweaver, however, deserves a mention, because I like playing with it. If I were ever to finish my shite and put it up in some obscure region of the web where only perverts and slack jawed Frenchmen go (Mon dieu? What is zis?), I'll probably use it for a primary.
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As a web designer, I've been using Adobe GoLive for a few years. I like the way it works with Photoshop and Imageready, but the interface is can be irritating if you're not used to it. From what I've heard from folks who'd know, Dreamweaver is the one to get if you aren't comfortable with HTML. If you are a student, you can probably pick it up for US$100 from your college bookstore. For my Adv. Flash class Ijust picked up the StudioMX suite (Dreamweaver MX, Freehand 10, Flash MX, and Fireworks MX) for US$200. I haven't had time to play with anything besides Flash (which rules, btw). You can't update the academic versions of Macromedia products but it's a great way to get a whole slew of tools you know are going to play nice together.
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Yes, Macromedia Studio MX definitely kicks ass. I bought it back in June and learned Dreamweaver and Fireworks right away. I still haven't gotten into some of the really esoteric stuff that those two programs can do, but I've managed to do some reasonably flashy things. (At least compared to the POS code that was produced with my old program, Claris Home Page...)
And now, I'm just starting to learn how to use Flash -- which definitely is a cool program. If you're willing to spend a few hundred bucks (me, I'm considering a career in web design), then I'd definitely recommend taking a look.
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Andrew, at work we use Macromedia Studio MX. It is a professional suite, has cleaned out most of the bugs of the earlier versions, and Dreamweaver MX produces the best source code of all the WYSIWIG editors I know of.
But to tell you the truth, after having worked with such editors for several years I have realised that there is still nothing better than good old plain text editors. For my private projects I use a thing called TextPad. It offers adjustable color-coding and many other very useful features. And above all it's cheap. You can download a fully functional trial version at the above address to see if you like it.
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Andrew, you just missed a pretty good overview of HTML and XHTML: http://www.westciv.com/courses/free/index.html -- for the past few months they've been publishing their course for free, but only for a limited time.
If you can't find anything elsewhere, you might want to take a look here. It's written with the goal of hand-coding in mind, and also specifically teaches XHTML, which is slightly more advanced than HTML.
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Well, I would recommend an online-guide called SelfHTML, which to me is the best and most comprehensive tutorial on the Net. But unfortunately for you it is completely in German and no English version is available. Sorry. Andrew, you don't happen to understand German by any chance??
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Andrew, XHTML is basically the same as HTML, with a few minor changes and some stricter guidelines for formatting tags. The basic premise is that it's HTML that's formatted for the XML language -- I'm not entirely sure of the underlying principles, but suffice to say that XHTML is supposed to be the "up-and-coming" code for the Internet.
If you're just starting out, I'd strongly recommend learning XHTML -- it's close enough to HTML 4.01 in most respects to make learning both pretty easy, but XHTML is also designed to be backwards-compatible with older browsers.
If you'd like to take a look at some code, check out any page in my site via the link below -- all of my pages were made with Dreamweaver MX in XHTML 1.0 Transitional code -- and I've tried to validate as many pages as possible to ensure the best universal compatibility.
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