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It's model 101. Look into the sunglasses on the cover of Arnold on the first Terminator movie.
CSM 101 (Cyberdyne Systems Model 101) is what it says.
As seen here:
Anyhow, a 3rd timeline does work, maybe for the 3rd movie?
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He may have been a model 101 in some way, but he was a T-800 series terminator.
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Don't start the 101/800 series argument. I bet it's as famous on Terrminator forums as the Defiant thread is around here. Maybe it's the 800-deries Terminator, model 101. Or something convulted like that.
Good job there Omega. It does answer one HUGE nitpick I've always had with the films, which was Kyle saying in the first film that the time machine was destoyed after he was sent back, so that no-one else could use it. Even though they did.
Although I suppose that can be answered by there being another time machine, I suppose.
There's another difference between timelines B/C and A. In B and C, John KNOWS about the coming of Judgement day, and prepares for it. In A, he is simply thrust into the role.
And regarding the left over tecnology from T1. Even though they destroyed it, there was still plenty of bits of T2 Arnie left all over the shop in the sequel. His arm got cut off (again), for example.
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The Terminator that Arnold plays is a T-800. The model number could be the living tissue human repica. Model 100 could look like James Cameron, Model 101 looks like Arnold Schwarzenegger, Model 102 could look like Robert Patrick, etc.
In conclusion the model number tells us who the T-800 looks like as a human.
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That's possible. Or perhaps the CPU was model 101? Heck, why would SkyNet put a textual ID inside a machine it constucted at all? That would seem to indicate that the CPU of the T-800 was designed completely by Cyberdyne. Perhaps SkyNet is incapable of improving on its own central design?
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I just want to say that I loved the old computer-game SkyNet. I miss it, it was ahead of Quake by far with total 3d-objects and surroundings. It was the first game I played were you had total control of the aim with the mouse. It really gave me a feeling of what the post-apocalyptic era of 2027 was like. It was very creepy with the old 80's synth-bass of the first movie wowing away in the background, suddenly to be drowned by the shriek of an intercepting hunter/killer craft. You could drive a car as well, dispatching the hunter/killers with the mounted machinegun-turret. I Wish I could play the whole game, not just the stupid demo. The T-800's were scary as well, they packed a punch.
If all goes well, maybe they'll make another game after the third movie is out. There are few plots better than that to base a game on.
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Hmmm true, although I bet SkyNet's fighting with Microsoft's Windows AI for dominance.
The model 101 could mean the literal skin of the Terminator 800 series, which would make sense, except why make mention of it? It's just flesh and blood over a normal 800 series model, right? If it had some weakness or stand-out ability that would make more sense.
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You know, that's not a bad idea, though you may have it backwards. Perhaps the endoskeleton is the model 101. The T-600 would have had the same thing, with a different outer covering, and thus when the upgrade came along, it'd still be designated model 101. Perhaps other models have extra apendages, or are shaped like cows or something.
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I seem to remember an interview with James Cameron where he stated that there was a factory that was just spitting out countless terminators that looked exactly the same, thus explaining why the second T-800 could be played by Arnold again.
Personally, I didn't like that idea. After all, wouldn't the humans figure out that the Arnolds were Terminators after the second or third one? (Yep, he's got the bulging biceps and that cheesy accent...blow it away, Jim Bob!) I don't think Cameron thought that out very well.
As for what the time travel thing...While the parallel universe theory holds out (i.e. every failed attempt by the terminators created a new timeline) I always believed that the ending of T2 was trying to say that you could effectively erase the future; that no matter what, it wasn't set. It's an interesting idea, really, because that would mean instead of multiplexing timelines branching out from one another based upon countless differences (such as whether or not suzy bought those leather shoes that day), there was only one timeline. Going back and changing something was as effective as if it had really gone that way the first time... a second reason I think this way is that IF the original terminator HAD killed Sarah, Skynet would've reaped the victory, because time WOULD have changed in it's favor...if an alternate timeline were created, the skynet that had actually sent the terminator back would STILL be destroyed, because in IT'S timeline John Connor existed to destroy it. I would hazard a guess that Skynet, being very, very intelligent, would have calculated that the future (its present) could be altered safely by killing sarah...no alternate timelines to worry about.
Hmmmm...that was an extremely convoluted paragraph, so If you got that (i'm not sure I did) tell me what you think about it.
On another note: The easiest way to explain a new terminator movie is to simply say that they didn't destroy ALL of the info Cyberdyne had...surely they didn't just have ONE office building. The engineer guy may have destroyed all of HIS work, but it was clear that several other people were working on the project, and they're still alive. And besides, the terminator said that the man most directly responsible for the creation of Skynet was him...but he may have already done enough work to allow the project to continue somewhere else.
Besides, I'd love to see another terminator movie. I saw that thing they did with it at the universal studios theme park, and it kicked ass...so i'm sure they could pull another one off.
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"After all, wouldn't the humans figure out that the Arnolds were Terminators after the second or third one?"
Well, it wouldn't matter. You see an Arnold, and realize it's a Terminator. Then it kills you. It could be as distinctive as Carrottop, and I don't think it would hinder anything but its ability to enter places covertly.
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Something just occured to me. Do you think that the human resistance lives in an underground city called Zion?
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