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Oh, I don't know. Resurrection didn't break any new ground, but Alien 3 was rather different from Alien. Or at least, that's what I thought. I've only seen the third one once. My friend recently bought the same collection Trinculo speaks of, so I'll have to borrow it sometime. Got to love the director's cut of Aliens, though.
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Well now that its four movies(with a possible fifth on the way) its not really a trilogy anymore now is it. On the other hand, Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy Trilogy is six(or is it five?) books, so who am I to say anything.
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Never seen Alien all the way through, but it was really groundbreaking. Number 2 was probably the best; they should have just made the director's cut the real movie. Number 3 I thought was a very boring film. Too much time is spent on finding if it's even there, which isn't really exciting or horror-inducing. Sadly, it had the most potential, but fell flat on its face at the startline. Haven't seen number 4.
A fifth one? Are they still going to try to do Aliens vs. Predator? Please tell.
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It's five. Hitchiker's... (very good) The Restaurant at the end of the universe... (good) Life, the universe and everything (excellent) So long, and thanks for all the fish (not bad) Mostly Harmless (good novel, but not really funny. Too serious)
And that's sort of the joke. The world's most inaptly named trilogy.
On the topic of Alien 3, you have to admire them. I twould have been so easy to repeat Aliends, but they went in a completly different direction.
And Ripley killing herself at the end was amasing too.
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I don't believe there will be a fifth movie. In the official movie magazines, there is no mention of a fifth alien film.
My rankings- 1. Alien 2. Aliens 3. Alien Resurrection 4. Alien 3 (for me, the biggest flaw of this movie is the inadequate explanation of how an egg got aboard the Sulaco)
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I have always loved these movies and rank ALIENS on my personal, slightly subjective list of the greatest movies ever made.
Yes, Alien 3 was a departure from what the audience was expecting. Instead of copying the second movie...the copied the first one. But cat and mouse against one alien after seeing a whole horde in the previous movie never seemed very satisfying.
Then throw in the less-than-loveable characters, the strange "brick-lined factory in the future" setting and the off-hand way that Newt and Hicks were just erased from the story line, and you get a flick that really disappointed a lot of people. Not to mention that little cheat about how Ripley got a chest-burster---was the Alien Queen carrying an egg with her like an [American] football cradled in the crook of her elbow?
Yeah, I'm a blood+guts movie fan. I wanted more Marines, more 41A's, more dropships, so it took me several viewings on video to even warm up to Alien 3.
Alien Resurrection copied Aliens, but by then they'd lost a lot of fan respect, I think.
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Weaver is contracted for two more movies, in fact. At least, that is my understanding. Part of that contract is that she gets to co-produce them.
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Especially the first one was groundbreaking, regarding how many times it has been imitated since. The Alien was the ugliest and meanest thing I'ver ever seen, the starship Nostromo was butt ugly, moist and uncomfortable, the people were no brilliant warriors, officers or scientists, but ordinary people. Everything quite different from Star Trek or Star Wars.
The second part had more action instead of the paralysing, often subconscious tension in the first part.
The third part was mostly lame, tried to imitate the tension in the first part, but did not really continue the storyline. Everything seemed unreal, and unfortunately this applied to the logic of the story likewise. The characters were of the kind you don't worry about. Who cares if they are all eaten by the Alien?
The forth part had a somewhat better story, but didn't reach the thrill of the first two stories. There was hardly anything new.
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The first two are the best. In Alien3 thought they broke faith with the audience by casually killing off Newt. Also couldn't buy how Ripley found herself great with alien. Alien4 fun to look at but didn't care much about the characters.
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This may be old news, but I just thought I would let everybody know that I went into a local discount store and picked up a copy of the Aliens Special Edition tape which has 17 minutes of restored footage that isn't present on the original release. I haven't watched it yet, but I'm pretty sure it has the sentinel guns scene in it this time...I remember seeing it during a TV showing, but I got the original released movie and that scene wasn't on there. Oh well, I'm sure its worth the $10.
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Exactly right Cargile. I accidentally ran across a mention of that book on someone's website and I got a copy quick. It's full of detailed USMC info and in my opinion it is better than any of the Trek-manuals. (although it is kinda like apples and oranges since *most* of the USMC equipment is still low-tech compared to Star Trek equipment)
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