Boy, this takes me back... The writing, pacing and dialogue are all classic Who. The animation, such as it is, is also quite impressive. While we're waiting for the REAL ninth Doctor (whoever it is) to make his debut in 2005, this will do quite nicely.
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I'd never really seen any "Dcotor Who" before, but I've been looking into it recently, and I'm wondering... Is this animated fellow supposed to be the same as Doctor #8, or is he #9 and the new show will feature #10? Or is this cartoon going to be considered completely apocryphal?
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The "Shalka" Doctor is a ninth Doctor concocted when it looked like the BBC would never resurrect the TV series - it was well into production when they suddenly announced that it would. Thus, the cartoon will become apocryphal when the new 2005 TV series airs.
It's hardly the first time they've done it: a ficitious fourth Doctor starred in a Doctor Who play during the hiatus between Job Pertwee and Tom Baker, and Peter "Tarkin" Cushing played the first(ish) Doctor in the two Dalek movies in the 60s. There are also a current series of audio books featuring a number of unnumbered "what if" Doctors in a variety of dark and depressing situations.
IMO, the "Shalka" Doctor doesn't seem TOO different in appearance or general personality than Paul McGann's eighth Doctor. I'd accept that this one could be an adventure from an older and more mature eigth Doctor, though that depends on who's going to play the guy in the new BBC series. McGann is a possibility, as is Richard E. Grant, the voice of this ninth Doctor (who also played an imaginary TENTH Doctor in the Doctor Who comedy spoof "The Curse of Fatal Death" - but that's another story altogether).
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"TREVOR MARTIN" played, a version of our favourite TIMLORD in a 1974 play running in the west end of London. (He actually was a "TIMELORD" in the last, "PAT TROUGHTON" story "THE WAR GAMES"!)
So, depending on who the next tv DOCTOR is "RICHARD E. GRANT" is unofficially the 9th with, "PAUL McGANN" the 8th - so, far!!!
But, no-one has made a distinction between the actor's doing the "DOCTOR" on tv. film or, stage - in which case PETER CUSHING is film DOC no 1, PAUL McGANN is film Doc no 2 - either way, it doesn't matter too much - but would be nice to see McGANN take the role if, just to keep the regenerations on tv correct!!!
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I'm still confused that you've never seen Doctor Who, and yet you have a quote from the series in your sig.
And, although I am loathe to bring up the word, I think that we can declare the Cushing Doctor as being "non-canon".
*scrubs himself clean*
Yuck. Anyway, he calls himself "Doctor Who", he says that he is human, and that he invented the TARDIS (sorry, Tim, but that has to be capitalised). There's really no way he can link to the TV Doctor as we know him. Same for any stage Doctors.
McGann, on the other hand, was directly shown to be the Doctor after McCoy. And apart from the whole "half human" thing, the film easily follows on from the TV series.
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I'm familiar with the acronymic nature of the word "TARDIS".
And my post above specifically mentions that I had been (and, in fact, I still am) watching the show. I simply hadn't seen more than one episode of the show before I took an interest in it, which was not long before I made that post.
So, in conclusion, nyah.
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Ahh. Fair enough. Where are you watching from? Because to go from the beginning all the way through would:
1/ take a long time, and
2/ be, er, impossible, due to missing episodes and whatnot.
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Randomly. Whatever episodes I'm able to download. And I recently realized I could get a few on video from the library.
I've mostly seen Tom Baker episodes. A few Hartnell episodes, too. Two or three each of Pertwee and Davison. Also one Troughton and one Colin Baker. And the movie.
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Day of the Daleks is Pertwee, isn't it? Is that the one which actually has some actual time travel in it as part of the story?
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Yes. The Daleks are controlling Earth in the twenty-somethingth century, and a band of rebels go back to the 1970s, thinking they can prevent the moment everything went downhill, but the Doctor figures out that their time-meddling is actually what caused the problem in the first place.
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Oddly enough, one of the best things about Doctor Who was that time travel often had little to do with the show. Inasmuch as Trek uses a starship to take us to the drama, the TARDIS does the same, but rarely was used as a plot point itself. It's not all to frequent the Doctor went back to change things, or big paradoxes, or whatever; indeed, the mechanics of the Doctor Who universe were so varied and changing that the only real constant was that police box!
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Yup. And, thinking about it, surely "Time and Again" is merely Trek's version of "Day of the Daleks"?
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Right, recarding "PETER CUSHING'S" version of the "DOCTOR" - it is as much part of the "DW" cannon as is, the (naff awful 1996 Movie with the half-Human, "PAUL McGANN" version).
The only reason that, "PETER" did those two movies:
DR. WHO AND THE DALEKS.
DALEK INVASION 2150AD.
Is simply because, "WILLIAM HARTNEL" was too busy with the filming the tv series and, therefore, couldn't do both. Remeber that back then "DW" was not only done live but, was done 50 out of 52 weeks (with only a break for Christmas). Also, both the stories used were versions of tv ones, anyway.
Plus, "PETER" wasn't in particularly good health when, he was asked to do the second movie but, becuase he'd enjoyed doing the first so much - he wanted to do the second.
The first film, was a copy of the first story that our little pepper-pots appeared in called: "THE DALEKS" (a 7-parter by, "TERRY NATION" shown on tv between, 21/12/63 to 1/02/64)and, the second was a copy of "THE DALEK INVASION OF EARTH" (a 6-parter again by, "TERRY NATION" shown on tv between, 21/11/64 to 26/12/64).
His "DOCTOR" was made more Human to appeal to a wider audience than just those already interested in "DW" and, so they made him more of a kindly, Grandfather figure call "DOCTOR WHO" who, was also an inventor. Hence, him saying he'd invented the "TARDIS". Plus the interior was also different because of that.
In any case the two films came on the back of the DALEK-mania at the time back in 1965!!!
So, these films have as much right to be cannonical in the history of "DW" as does the recent enjoyable webcast "SCREAM OF THE SHALKA"!!!
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