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WizArtist II
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Do I remember correctly that in one of the Killer B's books that it is implied that RDO actually HAD the idea for Psychohistory but needed a human to "Create" it and for that purpose he, basicly, caused the genetic engineering of Hari Seldon?

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Effectively, yeah. Though it was the selective breeding sort of genetic engineering. He needed a human immune to all the constraints. Daneel's basically been manipulating everything for his entire life.

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Jason Abbadon
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Originally posted by machf:
Originally posted by Jason Abbadon:
Um...(forgive me if i'm off base- it's been a decade since I read these) was'nt there the unresolved threat of the creepy telepahic hermaphradotic little "kid" at the end of the last Foundation book?

It's certainly implied that he's the "inhuman threat" (as I recall).

I'd say the ending is very ambiguous, you could for example see it as Fallom being humanity's last hope against any external threats (after having merged with Daneel, that is). I'm not saying that's it, it's just another possible interpretation that just occured to me.
well, if the kid and Daneel "merge" and the kid's alien (evil!) persona dominates along with Daneel's intimate knowledge of how humans operate and have been manipulated-and how to manipulate them still) then you'd have your reason to kill off Daneel right there.

Really, I got the vibe that asimov knew he'd never finish his storylines and so decided to merge everything into one biiiig story.

Stephen King did the same thing in the final Dark Tower installments and it all ended very poorly (as did the last Foundation book, obviously).

It's "Grand Finalle" seems forced and is best avoided.

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