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If they make the movie, they should at least put the Junkions in it so they can get Eric Idle along. He's still alive!
Okay, so maybe I'm only saying this because when I watched the old Movie, aged 18, I burst out laughing when I realised who was doing Wreck-Gar's voice.
Oh, and in reference to the Evangelion comments above, as I understand it the studio completely ran out of money before they could finish the series. Hence 'End of Evangelion' is really just a mish-mash of whatever they could lay their hands on to get something out the door. I've watched some of the series, but not 'End...', by all accounts this is a good thing. Would be interesting to know what the original plan for ending the series was though.
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I'm sorry, megatron not as a gun cause they are worried about toys? I can admire them for the principle, but they must be the only merchandising team worried, judging what I see it toy shops and TV these days. No one seemed worried about the violent connection with those hulk glove things my godson has punched me repeatedly with. Getting back to the topic, I'd vote for anything by Peter F Hamilton. The MindStar Books would make good action adventure, the Night's dawn might be a bit expensive on the CGI front. Stephen Baxter is a damn good writer, but most of his books seem to depressing for film.
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I've really gone off Peter F. Hamilton of late. His obsession with sexually inventive teenage girls, often in combination with shy awkward teenage boys who're nervous about sex, speaks of some deep-rooted neurosis that, quite frankly, I'm getting tired of having to struggle past in his recent books. The end of Judas Unchained left me feeling that whatever else happened in the 2,000-odd pages I'd just ploughed through, as far as he was concerned it was all about getting his sexually inventive teenage girl character and his shy awkward teenage boy character together. Bugger Salman Rushdie, if any book ever deserved to have a fatwa issued against its author then that book'd be Misspent Youth.
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I've got no problem with Megatron being a tank as long as his robot form was the familiar G1 version. I have more of a problem with the size difference between the robot and the gun.
I would love to see Soundwave in there, but I'm not sure how that could be handled realisticly. The size difference (again) is one thing, but you also hardly see tape players anymore.
I agree that they have to have Peter Cullen as Optimus. Accept no substitutes!
I hadn't even thought of Mark Hamill doing Starscream before, but now that I think about it, he would be perfect for the part! The voice just has to be a little more shrill than the Joker's, and you've got it.
quote:Originally posted by tricky: I'm sorry, megatron not as a gun cause they are worried about toys? I can admire them for the principle, but they must be the only merchandising team worried, judging what I see it toy shops and TV these days. No one seemed worried about the violent connection with those hulk glove things my godson has punched me repeatedly with.
It's not a matter of the violence (that's Grrrreat!), it's because toy manufacturers stopped (generally) selling gun-looking items after several kids got shot by cops while playing the old Laser Tag game at night.
Now that's liability!
Mark Hamill could easily br Starscream- they could just digitally alter the voice up an octive to get that shrill girly robot sound.
I think they could do a great plot based on the Dreamwave line of comics- that in 1999 the Autobots had won the war, built a second ark and were taking the Decepticons back to Cybertron for trial/prison (along with a bunch of humans as delegates from Earth- including "Sparkplug") when the Ark 2 blew up leaving the atmosphere. Everyone thought there were no survivors, but in 2006, an arms dealer had found a bunch of the transformers and re-programmed them as killing machines for sale. Untill Megatron woke up, anyway...
Seriously worth buying the TPB on this- amazing artwork too! Best the series has ever had by far.
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THat's kind of where I'm planning on going after MTMTE establishes the characters and situation. I can't think of anything else that would do a better job than the old cartoon pilot -- jjust no frikkin' "ruby crystals of Burma". *shudder*
Soundwave might be an iPod... but then what about his tapes? I have notions, but I won't bombard y'all with my notes in here. I may start a separate thread, though...
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Maybe Megatron no longer transforming into a gun is due to the design of the original toy? If I remember correctly, the original Megatron toy had a robowang on it from the trigger piece that projected straight out of his crotch.
Pictures of the toy can be found at the bottom of this page. I never owned Megatron (the closest I got was Galvatron), but I never realized weird the robot mode looked.
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Shackwave was the worst offender. He was the grey Radio Shack knock-off of Shockwave. The genuine toy had a trigger that flipped up to lay flat against Shockie's belly, but Shackwave's was fixed in the shooty position, thus in robot mode he had a robot stiffy.
The Megatron thing was intentional. I have pics of the prototype of the Microman toy's tevelopment. This was obviously the incarnation that was used for the cartoon character model. The head, arms, gun barrel, and trigger guard are all different from the final version of the toy. Personally I think it looked much better than what we got, but hey...
But the reason truly is that American toy manufacturers either can't or won't make realistic-looking, true-scale toy guns any more, for the most part. At the very least, they have to be some unusual colour. This, even though gang-bangers are spray-painting their peices with fluorescent surveyors paint in wild tie-dye patterns, and the cops are on to this ploy... *sigh*
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Of course, they could always just not make a toy. But, then, I'm sure we're not talking about people who are less-than-concerned about profit.
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The solution I worked in was that Megatron's original alt-mode was silimar to Galvatron or Shockwave -- i.s., self-propelled artillery. So I have him get turned into a gun by Teletran, and before the end of the story, he's effected a refit into something that isn't dependent on someone else to aim. I can't see him trusting anyone else to that degree, or giving up control of himself like that.
And an addition to my Mark Hamill comment above, I figured Eric Pierpoint would make a good replacement for Ultra Magnus' voice. What say?
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Skyfire was the cartoon incarnation. When Hasbo got the rights to make the Jetfire toy, it turned out the rights to use his image in the cartton were separate, so they had to cthe look and the name. Personally, I like Skyfire (name and look) a lot better. The red Lamborghini was indeed Sideswipe. He was my first TF. And you were also right about Skywarp.
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Getting waaay back to Evagellion, I saw something cool today: a Lilith dinnerplate!
I sooo want one.
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QUOTE]Originally posted by Peregrinus: THat's kind of where I'm planning on going after MTMTE establishes the characters and situation. I can't think of anything else that would do a better job than the old cartoon pilot -- jjust no frikkin' "ruby crystals of Burma". *shudder*[/quote]
I'd throw in some of the comic stuff to round it out though. Especially Prime being the one who intentionally crashed the ship on Earth. Plus, "Cybertron ruled by Decepticons with small pockets of Autobot resistence" is much better than "Shockwave sits on his arse on an empty planet for 4 million years doing nothing."
I just hope they leave Unicron out. Or at least save him and Primus for a second or third film.
quote:Originally posted by TSN: Megatron won't even be a gun. And I'll be surprised if they even try to get the (living) original voice actors.
Of course, Megatron's alt-mode was the single most pointless alt-mode ever. Including Reflector's. Galvatron's made sense, because you could assume his gun was more powerful in canon mode, but a hand held pistol? You have to wonder why, when Starscream was holding him, the jet never just snapped him in two across his knee.
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Well, of course it's stupid. But that's how it was. That's Megatron.
Really, the only point of making this movie is for all us twenty-somethings who watched the original show as kids. If they wanted to appeal to today's kids, they should make a Japanese cartoon (and, of course, they do). The only reason to go back and make a G1 movie is for nostalgia. If they just steal a few concepts from G1 and then go changing everything else, it's pretty much just a rip-off.
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