quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: He likes Indiana Jones: he wont even talk about star Wars in interviews. I think he spent a lot of time distancing himself from the Star Wars character and all that effort really paid off: He's the only one of the SW actors to break away and build a lasting successful career (James Earl Jones not included).
He was also the only one that could ACT! Since you are so found of remembering bad episodes... Remember "Corvette Summer"? That was all of Hamill I needed to see. I think he even did an alien thing on Seaquest DSV. Other than Fisher in a couple of bit parts and BillyDee in commercials did any other Wars actor accomplish ANYTHING?
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Did Alec Guinness have any acting jobs after "Star Wars"? Of course, he was getting on in years, I know, so you can't say that "Star Wars" ended his career -- not in the sense of negative connotations, anyway.
I do know that he absolutely hated the movies in later years, and even told one young fan, "You must promise me that you will never watch that movie ever again!"
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I meant AFTER their SW involvement. I'm not saying it was the END of their careers, but, what else HAVE they done since?
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"He was also the only one that could ACT!"
Uhm, hogwash. Guiness and Cushing (both Shakespearian actors) had a long and illustrious carreer under their belts when ANH was released, McDiarmid was more of a theater man but no less impressive, Hamill just peaked early, Ford came out of nowhere and got lucky that Lucas was a friend of Spielberg, Fisher suffered a lengthy nervous breakdown a la Drew Barrymore which put her out of commission for a decade and stinted whatever talent she may or may not have had, Earl Jones had by that time already cultivated a very venerable image of himself, Dee Williams held a lot of promise in the sixties and seventies but sort of faded out, and Oz, uh, dangled muppets around for a living (plus he was the spiritual father of Yoda which of course places him right up there with the immortal Charles "Chuckie" Jones) so he doesn't fall under the same criteria as the rest anyway.
That leaves only Baker, Mayhew and Daniels. Three out of what, eight recurring actors? Name a trilogy as culturally influential and with as large a cast as Star Wars of which more than half the members DIDN'T vanish into obscurity, and you MIGHT have a point.
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And, AGAIN, what have they done SINCE? Guiness was a great actor and Cushing was perfect for Tarkin. Jones didn't ACT, he was a voiceover. While that requires talent, it still isn't acting in these films.
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At this point in time, I don't think Harrison Ford really needs to distance himself from Star Wars. I mean, unless he really despises it that much. But, if he was just trying to avoid being forever typecast as Han Solo, I think he's accomplished it.
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Mark Hamill's biggest roles since Star Wars of which I am aware were three Wing Commander games and "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back". I thought he played a passible Blair, but I never saw "Jay and Silent Bob".
I don't think it'd be very convincing to do Heir to the Empire at this point. Which is just too darned bad, because the books rock.
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Too bad indeed: the books were the only good continuation of the original trilogy: the books after that are pretty sad.
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The Zahn books are good, but I doubt that they would make entertaining films, the pace is just too plodding for a Star Wars movie.
As for what Hamill has been up to since RotJ, check out IMDB. He's become quite the accomplished voice actor and does THE definitive Joker for the DC cartoons as well as a not-too-shabby Solomon Grundy.
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Yeah, his Joker is great. Watch Batman Beyond: Return of The Joker for some great dialogue acting on his part.
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"And, AGAIN, what have they done SINCE?"
Does it matter? You said Ford was the only member of the SW cast who could act (which is plain BS) because he built up a carreer while the others all slipped off the radar and never got noticed again. Well, newsflash: there are a LOT of skilled actors out there who have to wait TABLES simply because they never catch a break, and there are equally as many actors out there with resumes reaching from here to the moon who couldn't even act their way out of a cardboard box. What people have or haven't done in Hollywood isn't always an accurate yardstick for their talent, you know.
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quote:Originally posted by Cartman: What people have or haven't done in Hollywood isn't always an accurate yardstick for their talent, you know.
That's the truth: there's pleany of famous hacks out there but I had to explain who John Tutoro (sp?) was to someone just yesterday.
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I've seen Mark Hammel in half-a-dozen low budget Sci-Fi movies. Most recently he was in Jay and Silent Bob strike back. Check out his CREDITS page: http://www.markhamill.com/frames.htm
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Jason: "Turturro". B)
And yeah, he really doesn't get enough recognition for his performances. Just goes to show that resumes aren't worth a cent more than the paper they're printed on.
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Seen "Men of Respect"? It's a mobster version of MacBeth with Turturro in the lead role. Good stuff. "Miller's Crossing" was great too.
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