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PsyLiam
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Personally, I'm more concerned with:

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One thing never really discussed in RotJ
At what point do you want them to stop the end-of-double-trilogy celebrations and have Han say "Okay, all this dancing is well and good, but do these Ewoks know that they're all going to die? Eh?"

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Lee
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OK, so we have three potential endings for the film:-

  • Original, with muppets dancing around to ethnic oogah-boogah music
  • Special Edition, with muppets dancing around to Deep Forest-esque hippy crap music, accompanied with CGI-ed montage of whole ex-Empire partying down
  • Ultimate Special Edition, in which Rebels bugger off to establish new regime, leaving muppets to perish in fiery hail of death


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Jason Abbadon
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I'd actually buy the DVD editions if option #3 were included! [Big Grin]

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Sol System
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Of course, the Ewoks were not muppets.

And the word Ewok isn't even in the film. Is it in the credits? Now that's effective marketing.

And, of course, proof that Star Wars was terrible right from the (near) start, rather than only becoming awful with the prequels. GRR. MAD. LUCAS BAD.

I don't know.

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Um... you guys do realize that conclusion about this "Endor holocaust" is based on the false assumptions, right? [Smile]

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Yes, there is no death star. My mother taught me that when I was but a babe.

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Harry
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Anything that involves the death of millions of Ewoks is fine in my book.

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I dunno.. I could see a planet or moon or star exploding, causing a lot of havoc, but a huge space-station probobly wouldn't affect the planet much. Sure, there would be a lot of radiation, but there's a lot of radiation in space anyway... the atmosphere would filter it out. Another thing to consider is that endor is a moon, so the large planet that Endor orbits would also have a lot of radiation.. making the DT2's explosion just a drop in the buchet. Think of what would happen if it where in Jupiter's orbit.. it would be hard to notice the difference.
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DT2 = Death Tsar II ?

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Kazeite
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Yeah, it's that big armored space station from Tsar Wars [Big Grin]
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False assumptions? The Death Star was freaking huge. There would be lots of dust. A good bit of it would hit the moon. That much dust hitting any habitable world would suck mightily for anything living there. Which one's the false assumption?

And there wasn't apparently any planet Endor was orbiting. There's some explanation for this that I don't recall right now.

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DROP IN THE BUCHET
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Kazeite
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quote:
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False assumptions? The Death Star was freaking huge. (...) Which one's the false assumption?

The first one. Death Star 2 diameter was 160 km, not 900 km, as Dr. Saxton assumes.

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Jason Abbadon
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Even a 160 km station (assuming only 1/5 entered the atmosphere) would cause immense damage: greater than any asteroid impact for certain.
We're talking about millions of tons of mass.

That means lotsa dead everything on whatever continent the bulk of wreckage landed on and some fun global climate changes are in store for those furry canibalistic little fucktards.

That's with no radiation seeping through to the planet.

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PsyLiam
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The size of the second Death Star is one of those Star Wars topics that really makes me want to punch people and call them nerds (unlike the Executor-size argument, where I'm quite happy to stick my foot in the 16 mile catagory. Unless it was 16 km. I forget.)

My general science is shaky, but wouldn't a great deal of the mass of the Death Star have been consumed in that Great Big Explosion? And wasn't a lot of the Death Star hollow? And wasn't a lot of it not built yet? Surely those factors would bring down the amount of mass actually hitting Endor.

And apparently it was suppossed to be a rogue moon that had left the orbit of it's planet. Of course, that doesn't explain why it had managed to keep it's ever so nice climate and all.

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Of course, the Ewoks were not muppets.

And the word Ewok isn't even in the film. Is it in the credits? Now that's effective marketing.

And, of course, proof that Star Wars was terrible right from the (near) start, rather than only becoming awful with the prequels. GRR. MAD. LUCAS BAD.

I don't know.

Lots of things are in Star Wars that aren't mentioned. "TIE Fighter" isn't said until Return of the Jedi. "Star Destroyer" isn't said anywhere in A New Hope. X-Wing is said once in the entire trilogy (in The Empire Strikes Back), and Y-Wing, A-Wing and B-Wing aren't said at any point. "Tattooine" isn't said at any point in "A New Hope", nor it "Tusken Raider", and "Coruscant", "Palpatine", and Leia's surname weren't mentioned at all in the original trilogy.

And yet we know them all. Crazy.

Oh, and to address the "Star Wars was rubbish before the new films came out", I would say that the opening of Jedi is as bad as anything in The Phantom Menace. Jabba's Palace is just dull. But the end of the film with Luke, Vadar and Palaptine was as good as anything in The Empire Stikes Back. Yes.

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