Da_bang80
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When I said 30 years of EU, I meant the years in the Star Wars Timeline. from ANH to NJO. Which I think is closer to 40 years if I'm not mistaken.
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quote:30 years of expanded universe? Uh, gotta disagree with you on that.
I think he was referring to the time span that the EU covers rather than how long writers have been contributing to the EU.
quote:Has anyone noticed the similarities in the plots between the prequels and the original trilogies?...It just seems to me that plot for the prequels seems a little recycled.
I believe that this resemblence is very much deliberate, with the life of Luke Skywalker being a mirror image of the life of Anakin Skywalker except for a very crucial difference: Luke didn't turn to the Dark Side.
Even the Episode titles can be seen to be related.
"The Phantom Menace"/"A New Hope" The names are nearly opposites. In one, there is a vague fear that the (former) utopia of the Republic is being threatened by some mysterious force, i.e., the reemergence of the Sith and their conspiracies. In the other there is hope now that the power of the evil Empire is being challenged by a different force, i.e., the Rebellion and the reemergence of the Jedi.
"Attack of the Clones"/"The Empire Strikes Back" The names are almost synonymous, although the parties involved (the Republic and the Empire) are supposed to be idealogically opposed. In one, the Republic masses its armies and strikes against the forces that threaten it. In the other, the Empire masses its armies and strikes against the forces that threaten it.
"Revenge the Sith"/"Return of the Jedi" Once again, the names are opposites. In one, the Sith reemerge and end up victorious after having been forced into hiding for years by the Jedi. In the other, the Jedi reemerge and win the day after having been forced into hiding by the Sith.
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Da_bang80
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Revenge of the Sith is also similar to Lucas early working title of Return of the Jedi. He had originally called it Revenge of the Jedi. But dropped it because Jedi don't seek revenge.
FYI: Lukes original name was Starkiller. Which is also the name used for an NPC character in Knights of the Old Republic, Bendak Starkiller.
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Oops, my bad. Thanks for the clarification on the EU timeline.
Of course, now the EU expands about 30 years in both directions, with novels now being written detailing events before ANH
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Da_bang80
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What was the name of that prequel book where Anakin and Obi-Wan go to Zonama Sekot? Wasn't that book also written by R.A. Salvatore?
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Outta' sight! You sure put a fresh spin on that one.
I miss the days when people remembered that monkeys + typewriters = occasional golden turd.
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Da_bang80
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As lon gas they don't go about Blurst-ing things.
I thought that EP3 was actually well writen (compared to the other 2) I actually started getting teary eyed when Anakin killed Padme.
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Well, there's one poorly written bit right there. Remember that, according to the movie, Anakin didn't kill her. She died of a broken heart, or some shit.
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Da_bang80
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Pfft. That was Lucas' attempt to explain to the kiddies why anakin crushed her windpipe.
Anyone ever notice how at least one person in every movie get's a limb cut off or bisected?
EP1: Darth Maul EP2: Anakin EP3: Dooku/Anakin again EP4: Ponda Baba EP5: Luke EP6: Anakin AGAIN!
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Yes, and although the excessive charring in Ep.III was a bit of a copout (give me the Cantina cranberry sauce any day), I'm glad they came through in the maiming tradition. And Anakin's vocal reactions to it in the end of III weren't exactly toned down.
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I personally broke down when the mask was lowered onto Anakin's face for the first time. That look of sheer panic, the way the optics turned on, then the helmet coming down with the "thKUNG-squeeee" I remember so vividly from Empire. Than a pause. And then the first breath.
*sigh* I was a wreck.
But tht scene has to go. Along with most of Episode III. If we're to accept the Word of Lucas and watch them in numerical order (and all our progeny, too), seeing the downfall of Anakin while trying to save his pregnant wife blows the entire Original Trilogy out of space. All of Obi-Wan's misleading in Ep IV? Pointless. Vader's revelation in Ep V? Utterly eviscerated. And I seem to remember a certain part in Ep VI where Obi-Wan says, "When your father left, he didn't know your mother was already pregnant". Uh-DOI!
And while I'm at it, what the hell happened to, "I haven't gone by the name Obi-Wan since, oh, before you were born"?
Continuity, what?
--Jonah
P.S. The uniforms at the end of Ep III were the wrong colour.
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