The droid they designed for the game turned up in the Clone Wars as part of Fett's cre of bounty hunters- so that's something (?).
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If I recall, 1313 was going to be an M rated game, a first for Star Wars. Lots of adult themes and violence. As for Rogue One, can we wait for the first film to come out and see if its good? I mean Disney is putting all their eggs in one basket for Star Wars. There's always a chance, however small, Episode VII could suck the big one.
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Suck the big one? Ot depends on two things- first, how far Abrams takes the characters from their OT versions and second, how far he changes the overall SW universe conceptually.
SW fans do NOT want the concept altered- recall the awful midicloreans/ Anakin is Space Jesus/ drouds could rebel discarded ideas from the prequels.
And of course, fans want the OT characters to be the same- though its been almost forty years, no one wants to see...I don't know- a bitter divorced Han and Leia for example.
But my money is still on Kylo Ren being Luke Skywalker under the mask. He's a lefty like Mark Hammil and dresses like Vader. Expect fanboy outrage.
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Funny, I had the same notion. What better way to infiltrate a wannabe Empire than to become a wannabe Vader. Although a recent shot of Hamil as Skywalker would seem to discount this. He looks like Santa.
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quote:Originally posted by Mars Needs Women: Funny, I had the same notion. What better way to infiltrate a wannabe Empire than to become a wannabe Vader. Although a recent shot of Hamil as Skywalker would seem to discount this. He looks like Santa.
I think we may see Santa Skywalker in holos or possibly in some flashback to the time between the end of RTOJ and the appearance of Darth Jr.
As to motivations, I think maybe there has to be some...darkside incarnation. Some physical manifestation- and maybe Luke has embraced that, becoming something more akin to the Force Wielders from CW. After all, Anakin was supposed to become the balance in that equation, but it fell to Luke. That's assuming Abrams ever watched the CW stuff- or cares in any way. He sure did not with Trek.
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As far as the Disney canon sucking generally, I was amused by something recently.
See, in the old Expanded Universe, the Empire survived for ages under assorted Moffs, warlords, Emperor clones, et cetera, eventually dwindling into Remnants and such. I always poked fun at this concept since the end of the RotJ novel says "the Empire was dead" and of course the film shows fireworks, statue-toppling, and similar celebrations on Coruscant. My joke was that there must've been stormtroopers just off-camera and that the revelers were shot just after the scene ended.
Well, I never expected them to actually run with that, but in the novel Star Wars: Aftermath they actually do.
Fail.
(That book also has a comet supposedly theatening numerous star systems on a swath through the whole galaxy. Ancient Jedi group together and some literally kill themselves to destroy it from afar while it is still far from populated space. This is rather stupid, since they have literally thousands or millions of years to come up with a plan assuming a non-relativistic comet. So much for any trace of hard sci-fi ... at least we could pretend before.)
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How is that a fail? If there's a fail, it's in the movie and novel. A spontaneous galaxy-wide collapse of the Empire is ridiculously implausible. There's way too many people who would be invested in the continuing of the existing system and want to hold on to power.
(I loved that Robot Chicken sketch... "What do you mean, we can't fight back?!")
It may be a fairly obvious solution as far as retcons go, but it's also the most sensible and IMO the most likely to happen.
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The comet thing is a giant black hole-sized failure of even third grade science. Joss Whedon did the same stupid thing years ago in X-Men where aliens made a giant bullet and fired it at Earth..fuck, it was astonishingly bad.
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Sorry, I was referring just to the Stormtroopers on Coruscant. I agree the comet part sounds ridiculously stupid.
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quote:Originally posted by MinutiaeMan: How is that a fail? If there's a fail, it's in the movie and novel. A spontaneous galaxy-wide collapse of the Empire is ridiculously implausible. There's way too many people who would be invested in the continuing of the existing system and want to hold on to power.
Setting aside the novelization's dead Empire and explicit mention of Palpatine's evil having held everything together, I agree that the lesser evil overlords would not simply scurry off, generally speaking. There are many factors that could carry things in many directions.
But to actually have all the revelers literally shot down as soon as the movie camera turned away is just crap writing.
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I think a far better idea would be for the far-flung Empire consolidating power in the wealthy Core systems- drawing in their fleets and making key systems impervious (by SW's standards, anyway) to attack. That would leave the Outer Rim, Mid-Rim and whatever else to chaos- which the Rebels would have to pull together without the Core systems and their wealth, industry and trade.
They could have made the galaxy a FAR worse place by crippling trade and infrastructure. How many worlds would have been dependant on trade to even feed themselves? We sure saw Naboo needed trade just to get by.
And not only would the Empire be an ever-present threat, but not all the freed worlds would want to become part of a New Republic. Certainly the former Seperatist worlds would pass- they lost the war and were crushed when Republic became Empire.
Lastly, you'd get warlords and planetary/system dictatorships- and crime! Holy shit, you'd have the crimelords expand into the only government in some systems.
Add to alllll that, there might well be a rise in Force users- suppressed through mandatory testing during the Empire- for both light and dark sides.
They could have had a sorta Iraq parallel to match the obvious political overtones Lucas was adding in the prequels.
Instead we get braindead super-comet and an ongoing internet joke. Let me guess- all life on Endor was destroyed by debris from the Death Star?
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I don't know where "The New Order" has hidden during the years after Endor, but it's probably far out of the way. I don't think Hamill is Ren, though, they've shown Ren without the mask, walking in snow with Snow Troopers, and he's tall, thin, and wiry. Everything Hamill isn't. rimshot
I hope the actor playing Ren is really good, because so far, for me, the picture makes him look like an angstier version of "The MotherFucker" from Kickass 2.
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I hope he's a new character- in every way. We don't need "Vader lite". I'd much prefer someone more like Thrawn- that inspires loyalty instead of fear and intimidation.
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quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: I hope he's a new character- in every way. We don't need "Vader lite". I'd much prefer someone more like Thrawn- that inspires loyalty instead of fear and intimidation.
I wish he wasn't a human- hell, I wish got Thrawn!
I'd settle for something exotic....I'd love to see a Sith wookie. Or Min Cal- those big eyes corrupted by the dark side...
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