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koy'peled Oy'tio
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Roddenberry effectively used the resources he had to make a series with several others following, and an eventual movie franchise. Lucas on the other hand, first took the movie approach. The way I see it is that beginning with a series first as Roddenberry did is a much better strategy than movies…sure you might think that star wars has a larger gross in movies but that doesn’t account for episode VHS that trek offers. What Roddenberry's has done in making a series first is ensure continuity anyway this thread is not about who’s better...who am I kidding...well just try to humor Wars a little. Star trek once a week and a movie once every three or so years Vs star wars once every as an average eight years. The fact is the Star Wars story line is somewhat blurry in comparison to Star Trek. What Trek has on the other hand is a bold outline of events; it is an idea on what the future of a society could be like. A long time ago, in a galaxy far far away Vs. Seek out new life and new civilizations to boldly go where no man has gone before…

[ April 26, 2002, 14:20: Message edited by: koy'peled Oy'tio ]

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Malnurtured Snay
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And yet the Star Wars movies do much better in the theaters then Star Trek films, essentially ruining your theory that a TV show equals higher movie grosses (I don't think the X-Files film did all that well either, did it?)

BTW: I had to re-read your post like five times before I figured out what the hell you were saying. Try to be more clear, okay?

[ April 26, 2002, 09:16: Message edited by: Malnurtured Snayer ]

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"...Roddenberry (I can never spell that right)..."

Then how did you?

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I'm afraid I don't see your point, koy'peled.
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You have a cold Harry?

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koy'peled Oy'tio
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well i have edited it for those of you who can't quite grasp what im trying to say.

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Snay--the X-files movie made around $80 million domestically, so it was a hit on a certain level, but no where near Star Wars.

I have to say I like Star Wars better than Star Trek. It may be because I grew up with it longer than Trek, or that I think Star Wars is written better (dodges rocks of people who disagree). I like Star Trek, but not as much as Star Wars.

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Star Trek at its best is quality hard s-f. At its worst, Trek is pop-culture pablum. But all of it, even the movies, is the victim of the episodic mentality -- that the status quo be maintained form installment to installment. Big things may happen, but the core characters and ship are back to where they were at the beginning by the end. Even Star Trek II and III, if you look at them as the two-parter they are. The only significant changes have been the refit of the original Enterprise (and the destruction of same), and the destruction of the TNG Enterprise. And both for the same reason -- the TV miniature wasn't detailed enough for the big screen.

Star Wars, on the other hand, is space opera or epic poetry. It's the ancient heroic monomyth set in a science-fiction-y universe. There's no moral, no commentary on contemporary cultural issues. It's just a mythic cycle writ large for latter-20th-century audiences.

...And Star Wars films come out every three years, not counting the gap between the original trilogy and the prequel trilogy.

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quote:
Star Trek at its best is quality hard s-f. At its worst, Trek is pop-culture pablum.
I'm sorry, but did I miss the hearing on this matter at the axiom approval commission?

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I'm thinking he just meant how people personally rate it, The_Tom ... not a literal rating. [Smile]

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Didn't someone once say that Star Trek and Star Wars only exist so that we continue to appreciate Babylon 5? [Smile]

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"well i have edited it for those of you who can't quite grasp what im trying to say."

Didn't help.

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DAMN YOU ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!! (or just TSN if he's the only one)
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quote:
Didn't someone once say that Star Trek and Star Wars only exist so that we continue to appreciate Babylon 5
As what? The poorly written, poorly acted waste of time it is?

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