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Hey, watching these early DS9 episodes I've noticed that the backgrounds during the space scenes [especially in the Gamma quadrant] have colors, red and blue, in the form of gaseous clouds.
I never noticed it before, in fact I seem to remember that it was a major complaint that Trek didn't have those backgrounds... it usually comes up revolving around B5.
I'm confused.
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I always thought B5 was FAR too colorful for the shear vastness of space involved.
On DS9, the Idran system (on the gamma side of the wormhole) may have some nebula remnants flowating around to give it some color, I suppose.
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quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: I always thought B5 was FAR too colorful for the shear vastness of space involved.
How does one shear a vastness? With pinking shears?
Sheer lunacy, such shearing would be!
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You mean those digitally altered, color enhanced for contrast Hubble photographs.
Reeeeeal realistic.
Some of Hubble's photos go so far as to change X-Ray information into visible colors.
It's cool to look at but not really how something would appear to the naked eye.
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Well, DUH. OF COURSE those photographs were digitally altered. They had to extend them in 3D for purposes of camera movement. And yeah, they also enhanced the colors a bit. What WERE those idiots thinking? Didn't they know that improving the contrast and visibility of a background image of deep space destroys ALL realism in a scene?
Wouldn't the colors also be sheer? I mean, if you can see stars through them and all....
If the only color is on planets we live in a bland universe....
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quote:Originally posted by Ritten: Yes, well, then....
Wouldn't the colors also be sheer? I mean, if you can see stars through them and all....
If the only color is on planets we live in a bland universe....
I think the only thing sheer around here is your underwear...oh, Good morning!
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quote:Originally posted by Cartman: Well, DUH. OF COURSE those photographs were digitally altered. They had to extend them in 3D for purposes of camera movement. And yeah, they also enhanced the colors a bit. What WERE those idiots thinking? Didn't they know that improving the contrast and visibility of a background image of deep space destroys ALL realism in a scene?
Jesus.
You miss the point: it was speculated that those were accurate colors and DS9 was "major complaint that Trek didn't have those backgrounds".
Look at our own solar system: there's no bright shiney nebula everywhere you look. Unless all those pics from the Voyager spaceprobe are just pointed in the wrong direction.
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If you looked at those Hubble pictures under the visible spectrum, you'd normally see the stars. All the nebulaic clouds and gasses? For the most part, they're only seen in spectra of light that the human eye can't normally see. Hubble records images in those spectra and then NASA / JPL / whoever modifies them so we can see them.
You know infrared goggles? They take light in infrared waves that we can't see, and promotes their wavelengths electronically to something we can. Same thing with space telescopes and IR / NIR / UV / X spectra, among things.
That said, the B5 backgrounds were almost exclusively those pictures taken directly from the modified images you caan purchase or that have been released to the public domain, and barely altered them at all. Made the B5 universe look like the Electric Light Parade to me. Trek backgrounds, when they got around to doing them, are IMO uniformly better suited to the general colour palette of the given show.
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"I always thought B5 was FAR too colorful for the shear vastness of space involved."
"You thought wrong, then, since many of B5's backgrounds were actual Hubble photographs."
The point isn't that such nebulae don't exist. The point is that you'll only run into them from time to time. Most of the time when you fly around in space, all you're going to see is black with little points of light.
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Surely you're also going to see a big strip of blue stretching across the place? I''ve been really, really, really out in the countryside, and the rest of the Milky Way does show up as a great big...blue thing.
If you're in space, with no light polution, aren't you going to see the colourful stuff from extreme distances?
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"The point is that you'll only run into them from time to time."
Well, they didn't show them in every episode. Most were used as backdrops for fleet battles, of which there weren't all that many.
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Trek backgrounds, when they got around to doing them, are IMO uniformly better suited to the general colour palette of the given show.
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