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Malnurtured Snay
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Just in case you missed the six $'s in the subject line ...

SPOILERS!

With that done ...

Wow. Awesome!

Well written, well acted (well, as well acted as Star Trek can be), great action sequences -- !

I didn't like the gel scene between T'Pol and Tucker. Certainly too fan-boyish. Anyone drooling over Jolene in this month's Maxim ("Well, I love when I sort of come to and I'm on the other side of the room, sweaty and breathing heavy, with bottles and ashtrays tipped over everywhere. I'm, like, 'What just happened? Oh, yeah, I got laid. Gotcha.'") won't be disapointed, but it seemed a bit risque for a Star Trek series. ::shrug::

I love the sets. They're so wonderfully detailed ... although I found myself wondering what Archer would say if he found himself standing on the bridge of the Enterprise-D. "Holy crap, this is big!"

The Rigellian mining station (or whatever it was) looks like something you'd see in TOS ... (except, obviously, better details and such).

I'd like to see more interaction between Sato and Mayweather. She hates spaceships, he loves 'em. I'd like to see something happen there.

I think we can probably add that mysterious room where the Suliban leaders confrences with his leader from the future as one of the standing sets of Enterprise. I think we'll be seeing it again.

I loved the opening credits ... I loved Zephram's speech. I thought the incorporation of some of the familiar opening speeches ("new life, and new civilization... to boldy go where no man has gone before") was done very well, didn't sound all that corny. I was hoping, at the end, Archer would sit down and say, "Space. The final frontier. These are the voyages of the Starship Enterprise, her new mission to seek out strange new life, and new civilizations. To boldly go where no man has gone before!"

Ah well.

I liked that we learn that there are sixty-or so dialects of the same Klingon language. I liked seeing the Klingon Hall, although I was kind of hoping to see a Klingon ship. I guess we'll get to see more of them later. The First Contact didn't seem to be so disasterous ... yet ... of course, the Klingons don't seem very open with what they're thinking, so I guess we'll find out more on that later.

Well, I think that about sums up what I thought of Enterprise. For the first time since Deep Space Nine went off the air, it seems there's finally a series worthy of carrying on the Star Trek legacy.

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OH MY GOD........(faint)
Great job!!!
paramount out did themselves this time no timeline screwups either

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A good show. The best special effects of a pilot so far...an Emmy coming up next year?
I forgot about the Klingons and the Akira-look of the Enterprise and enjoyed myself. Too bad we haven't seen more of them phaser rifles, that
Gomer the farmer was handlin' at the beginnin'.
"Yee-haw! Us Oklahomans will take out them aliens!"

Aside from that, we had a good story and cast (John Billingsley, from those celluar phone commercials). He reminded me of Neelix. We had an exotic chef, now an exotic doctor!
One question: was that James Cromwell on that computer screen near the beginning? It sounded like him, and looked like him in a way. Probably they just took someone who sounded like him and put him on.

No doubt they'll be a future episode about Archer's father, and in another he'll be brought back to life (if he's dead) somehow.

Thos eare my thoughts .

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Malnurtured Snay
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No, that actually was James Cromwell. Not a really big surprise -- he guest starred in quite a few episodes of The Next Generation ("The Hunted", comes to mind) before he made it "big."

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After watching "Broken Bow", I must say this:

I take back everything negative I may have said about Enterprise.

That was one of the most moving opening credits I have ever seen. I would watch this show every Wednesday just to see that again & again.

I'm with Jeff. The only negative aspect of the episode I found was the gel scene, for the same reasons. Even so, it was 100% better than every Chakotay/Seven scene in "Endgame."

There's so much more I want to say, but I think I'll rewatch my tape again first.

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i can live with the gel thing

a little bit worried in seeing t'pual behave just like 7 of 9

but over all got a good night's worth of entertainment.

i also did think the infiltrate the sulliban base thing was pretty lazy though.


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Suliban --> Taliban.

The capital of Afghanistan is "Kabul", and they mentioned something in the episode in reference to the Suliban heirarchy which sounded a lot like Kabul.

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It was actually Cabal

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Still, a very strong link to "Kabul" ... don't you think?

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I have officialy joined the Enterprise band wagon.

I agree fully with Jeff , the acting was good , no doubt as the cast begins to get closer the acting will get better as we go along.

The SFX were great , considering and I'm sure that once Paramount sees some returns from Enterprise ratings wise the SFX budget will grow.

The Enterprise looks great , you Akiraprisers , move on!

Dr. Phlox's smile was just werid , very creepy. I like that.

The Decon scene was a bit non trekish but atleast it wasent sexist , the Camera went both ways , Tucker and T'Pol , not to mention Archers Undies , I just hope they dont make that a running gag with Archer like Kirk and his tattered shirts.

Overall I'm very happy with this series premeire , and I will definatly be watching next week , I'm pretty sure by then the acting will be even better and it does look like the crew is starting to take to T'Pol , if they stay on track with this , I will be a very happy viewer.


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Now, if we can only get you to place your commas directly after the end of the word, and not [space],[space][new word] ...

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I'm glad I was one of those people with the "Wait and see, give it a chance" type attitude of not judging Enterprise until after it aired.

The only thing I don't like, off the top of my head, if the opening music. Visually it's great... but that music just doesn't fit. I wish they stuck with instrumental stuff.

PS: Think you have enough $s Jeffy? I still think anyone with common sense would relize that there would be spoilers for Enterprise in an Enterprise forum, not to mention the title in this case speaks for itself.

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quote:
Originally posted by Soundwave:
The only thing I don't like, off the top of my head, if the opening music. Visually it's great... but that music just doesn't fit. I wish they stuck with instrumental stuff.

This is a criticism of Enterprise I can mostly agree with. I don't mind the fact that it's vocal so much that it's so "current." Even those who like the song will cringe at Enterprise reruns in thirty years. Maybe if they had made a legitimately "operatic" version, it would work, but the use of soft rock is questionable. I do like the muted, instrumental version used durng the commercial breaks and closing credits, though.

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Soundwave,

I've been very conservative in my use of spoiler warnings. But I guess you didn't notice the really big emphasis Charles has placed on making sure people don't spoil themselves (All new topics concerning the premiere episode require spoiler warnings. Do so by placing either the word 'Spoiler' in the subject line, or including the customary series of dollar signs.
Example: "Oh mah gawd, that was great $$$$poilers")
, given that many Flare members won't see Enterprise for years, yet might still stop in to the forum for news on Enterprise.

Or, "PLEH!"

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I believe that everything I've been saying in defence of Enterprise (Akiraprise, Prequel premise is gonna suck) has been prooven correctly.

*glows brightly*

I FREAKIN' LOVED IT!!!

This was the best acting i've seen come out of a pilot! Jolene was a great vulcan .. and Sato is a great character.

I'm gonna have to get use to Phlox.. but he's cool!

Bakula is a great fit as a captain.. takes no shit, that guy!!!! They play well with character interaction ...

The gel scene was a little much, but am I the only one that doesn't remember ANY of the true dialogue in that scene??? **Just pokin' fun**

Ok .. so..

Thing that some in other threads are picking on!!

The Enterprise takes a pounding ... without shields... WE have to remember that weapons in this century aren't the weapons they are in TOS .. I think as things move on .. we may see phaser on the ship becoming a little more advanced... HOw will they do upgrades without a Starbase ..

There will be no, "Set course to the nearest Starbase."

I think what they did was they took the Voyager premise (Take a lone ship out on its own) and made it a "Where no one has gone before" attitude with characters that aren't bound by a Eutopia mindset. The humans are not the superior morality of the universe here... they are inferior as the Vulcans are reminding them all the time.. (This aspect of the vulcan/human relationship, I think is great).

Also.. people are saying the T'Pol and her ilk were a little too emotional... Well.. they are 100 or so years before "Spock" .. they aren't as refined .. just as the humans aren't as refined... a few 'primitive' differences should be expected.. and IMHO, it makes it fresh.

That is what ENTERPRISE is ... FRESH

Two thumbs up!!

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