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Bernd
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This is a Saber-class MSD (obviously) of unknown origin I received a few weeks ago. I was surprised, since it looks very "official" although I never heard it was featured in the ST Magazine or in some other authorized publication. Anyone know where it could be taken from?
http://www.homestead.com/thetrekker/files/Sabre_MSD.jpg

If it is fan-made (why should Okuda or Drexler bother to create an MSD for a rather obscure ship?), it's the best one I have ever seen. The ship would be only 130m. Note the horizontal warp core!

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Yeah, I think it's fan-created. There are two many rough edges. . .
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Chris Gough made it for UP2, did he not?

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That's one impressing piece of work. Just by smoothing the borders and aligning the cut-and-pasted parts a bit more exactly, one could print this in a Paramount book. (Actually, this one has more class than most of the pics that make it into a Paramount book...)

Just one thing that I find a bit surprising: why so much attention to self-destruct mechanisms? Both the torpedo launchers seem to be aimed inwards!

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The First One
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I don't remember seeing it before, but we know how many people delight in taking Chris's work and passing it off as their own, so. . .
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The shuttles come from the Defiant MSD.

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Bernd
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Actually, it is an edited version I have made for Lance. It is taken from a larger diagram from Ben Potter that also included Intrepid, Prometheus, Defiant and Nova. The repeated JPG compression has probably affected the edges. It is also interesting that the Prometheus MSD is not the one from the Encyclopedia, actually, the one I have is much better except that it suggests a one-piece M/ARA throughout all decks of the secondary hull . Was a Promi MSD featured in the ST Magazine?

I will post the complete MSD image once I have managed to reduce the size without further blurring it.


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I think I saw that at UP2 also... they had quite a few images. About the Prometheus though, you don't mean this one do you?
http://ussnova.cjb.net/prometheus.jpg

It's version 2 (unofficially v18), LCARS added after some retouching was done.


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Who made that one, was it you Leo?

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Black Knight
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Oh, that must have been that one that I (personally) found at an RPG site, and you added the LCARS Leo?

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Right on both counts. The cut out's available on a couple pbems, but I made it out of the Voyager and Enterprise-E cut outs for the USS Prometheus sim (AES) after giving up on looking for anything official - hardly accurate considering it has three bridges and the warp cores aren't placed correctly either, but after getting the official MSD I'm looking forward to a remake (v19).

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The Prometheus cutaway was most definately created by Leo first (before any official one was released). I know this because I saw several versions of it in the design process over a year ago when he was working on it.
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I downloaded that Saber MSD when UP2 was still online, along with the Akira Class MSD (Which is so small). I like this Prometheus MSD, better than the official MSD since there are too many inaccurate things about it.

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I think I still have both those somewhere, but they also had the Defiant and Intrepid cutouts (presumably where they did the Akira and Sabre from). Those're the best for inspiration on image editing... anyone know if Eric Gough and co have any plans to reestablish UP?

(side note: does anyone have the full cutaway for the Nova-Class or Dauntless?)

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Eric? 8)
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