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Well, the Enterprise-D is organic and elegant. But I wouldn't take it to fight the Borg unless it gets a major refit. The Enterprise-E is sleek and long. But I wouldn't take the ship to explore the final frontier.
I like both designs, but I'm more partial to the Galaxy Class Enterprise since I grew up with that ship on the TV screen. I like the Soverign Class Enterprise also, but I'm sentimental.
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I love the Enterprise-D, she's such a beautiful starship. A true deep-space explorer -- she is sadly missed by all who knew her.
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quote:while the enterprise E represent a federation that just underwent several major wars in which the lives of several hundred billion citizens were lost.
You wanna back up the "several hundred billion" number?
I disagree. Starships take YEARS to design. The Sovereign-Class was being designed probably before the Enterprise-D even left spacedock.
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Not to mention that the Galaxy class was introduced into ongoing conflict w/ the Tholians, probably not long after the Tzenkethi War, and during the Cardassian War...
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I don't think there was one "Cardassian War" -- I think that the "Cardassian Wars" is the general term given to the scattering of conflicts between the Federation and the Cardassians over a long period of time. They may not even be "true wars", but that is how they are known.
I would guess that the first "war" happened shortly after First Contact between the two powers, and that the last (prior to the Dominion War) ended shortly before Encounter at Farpoint. The first few seasons of Deep Space Nine showed an easing of tension between the Cardassians and the Federation, no doubt facilitated by the civilian government and the Klingon invasion. Then Dukat turned everybody over to the Dominion ...
Also, even the Tzenkethi War and the other border wars I don't feel are as big a conflict as the Klingon fighting or the Dominion War. Most of these wars, IMHO, were small-scale: Starfleet sent in fifty or sixty ships and fought the wars with those ships. Or something similar
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The Galaxy has an elegant luxurious look. A great ship for exploring, making first contact and ambassadorial missions. The next flagship should really be of this class, again.
The Sovereign class has a more straight to the point design. More made for effectiveness than luxury. Get in fast, do your stuff, and get to the next mission, just like the Intrepid class.
I still like to know why Stafleet went retro on the Sovereign design. If I had to put the Enterprise designs in chronological order without knowing what the order should be, I'd put the Sovereign after the Excelsior.
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I like the Galaxy but think the saucer is too big, a forward view makes it look like a 60's space-lamp. The only good view is the side view.
The Sovereign has an ugly rear view, but the rest is lovely IMO. It is sleek, yes, and looks kind of like a luxury car to me, those nice organic lines and nacelle pylons, the ribbed surface of the saucer top, and that nice chin that is the forward launcher.
And the COLOURS, the colours are nice, some black lines on the spine, the beautiful Excelsior-rifled nacelles and of course the deflector dish. The Galaxy deflector dish looks like brown and blue play dough. This is pure energy!
The battles with the Sona was unfair, the writers had to draw out the conflict to make it "thrilling", they could've just come about and fired five volleys at each ship and all would be well, but that doesn't seem to be the starfleet way. Also, the aft torpedo the E-E fired was to badly lit, it should've glowed with those familiar rotating flames... Hmph!
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i personally think that the galaxy class is beautiful. to me, the sovereign class just lacks beauty and aesthetic sense.
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WHAT? Too many windows? You crack-smoker!!!
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I suppose they want to have nice window views for every passenger and every single corridor. Still, it looks like they've let loose a hive of ants on a balsa-model... Look at the top view for fox sake, and focus solely on the windows. Rat nest...
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