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I've seen it discussed to death elsewhere though.
Fuck the ewoks.
What's not discussed is the horrible radiation deaths those poor DeathStar Laser tech must have endured....watch the scene as the beam emits just meters from the firing crews.
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Sarcasm flies past you faster than hyperdrive, young padawan.
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No. Science fiction takes into account things like this, and is solidly based in at least halfway-decent science. Lucas never intended to make SW science fiction in the true sense of the term. He basically did fantasy in a science fiction-type atmosphere. (This is often referred to nowadays as "science fantasy.")
This is not meant to be disparaging. I love SW and, despite my disagreements with many of his more recent creative decisions, have great respect for the talented Mr. Lucas. My point is simply that this sort of a discussion, while it would be valid if we were discussing Trek, is null in regards to SW. That isn't the point of it. The point is the mythology.
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You're free to define it that way for yourself, but if you think there's anything approaching consensus on this issue you're wrong. Genres aren't real in that idealized, forms in heaven sense, for one thing.
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Just because a story is have on mythology doesn't mean it negates any other characteristics inherent in it. Star Wars is Sci-Fi a lot.
You could say the story behind "The Matrix" is just mythology too, but they have lots of quantifiable and measurable data and plenty of hitherto-nonexistent tech, lending credence to the sci-fi label. Star Wars is science fiction in that they can do things there that you can't do normally, like create forcefields, fly faster than light and make a Waffen-SS Halloween costume look good. That it is set in another galaxy is irrelevant. Also, other sentient and culturally developed lifeforms except humans.
About the fallout of the Second Death Star, sure, if it is within the gravity field of the moon, the hemispheres of the station that exploded towards the moon should fall down on it.
You could of course argue that the insanely oxygen-rich atmosphere of Endor melted the bits away like so much Alka-seltzer, far more efficiently than our planet would, because well it's just so damn green. Whatever yanks your crank.
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Interjection: Trek is no more solidly based on science than my demented great-grandmother's fantasy world where pigs fly and love is a holographic snowmobile and pink elephants are the force carriers of gravity.
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Star Wars is science fiction in that they can do things there that you can't do normally, like create forcefields, fly faster than light and make a Waffen-SS Halloween costume look good. That it is set in another galaxy is irrelevant. New forum description- right there.
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quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: Sarcasm flies past you faster than hyperdrive, young padawan.
Kiss my bumper!
To re-inforce my original statement - I truely had no idea that SW was not considered science-fiction. I have always considered it so. Science fantasy? That's a new one for me too. Why would it be fantasy and not fiction though? What's the difference? Isn't it all three (science, fiction & fantasy)?
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Technically, science fiction is supposed to be a "what if?" story based upon some sort of potential scientific advancement.
Of course, since such stories are based in the future, and often involve space travel, it came to be that any story set in the future or involving space got called "science fiction".
So it just depends upon what definition you like. By the "traditional" definition, SW isn't sci-fi. It has nothing to do with science. The spaceships and robots and rayguns are just incidental. You could set the same general story in just about any setting. "Traditional" sci-fi would specifically focus on the consequences of some sort of scientific something-or-other. SW is actually just about the characters.
Now, of course, by that definition, many Trek stories wouldn't be sci-fi, either. So it just depends where you draw the line.
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And one could think we, here have no life - whoever compiled that page... deserves a personal visit from William Shatner. (Err to like, reiterate the SNL skit).
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