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Even though it is a little premature, wouldn't it be cool if the next Trek series was about the voyages of the Ambassador class USS Enterprise NCC-1701-C under the command of Capt. Rachel Garrett and her steady crew. For the series finale, they shiow them going to Narendra 3, getting in the fight with the Romulans, going through the temporal anomaly, splice in TNG: Yesterday's Enterprise, show them going back through the anomoly, then getting blasted by the Romulans, with a few escape pods and shuttles escaping, but being picked up by the Romulan ships. Then they switch a few months into the future, showing Federation and Klingon diplomats discussing a peace treaty, and one of the Klingons could say something like "It was a great act of honor for the Enterprise to defend our outpost and be destroyed while trying to save our people." or some thing like that. What do ya'll think?
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that would be REALLY cool, but it would never happen.
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So!?! I think it wouldn't happen cause you can't (so far) trust Berman and Braga to continuity... The old DS9 team should get together and do Trek TV movies...
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quote: Originally posted by Dat: It would never happen because we already know what will happen in the series finale.
So we all just hallucinated "Phantom Menace"?
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i think we all know this would be a different case than that.
I think the challenge in creating this series finale would be in retelling the events of YE without exactly reshooting them (given that you would probably need new actors and such since TNG guys are 10-15 years older and the bit players have probably evaporated into Hollywood. OK, Lt. Castillo was in Happy Gilmore. But where is he now and do you want to look at him for 7 years trying to pretend he's 20 years younger than he is now?)
An interesting solution to this was achieved in the Early Voyages comic series. It started on the Enterprise under Pike, and introduced his close friend Yeoman Cusack. This was with the continuity fans in mind, because hey knew the Captain's Yeoman died shortly before 'the Cage' .. so they did a couple stories with him, then did the infamous Rigel story and showed how he got killed. Everybody knew that the next issue has to be 'The Cage', and the writers retold 'The Cage', except through the eyes of Yeoman Colt, who had just been assigned to the Enterprise as a replacement. it duplicated her scenes on the bridge and in the cell, but everything else was different because we were following it from her eyes, belowdecks, rather than Pike's eyes in the episode.
So this raises the question.. who would the main characters be, considering that a mojrity of the crew dies before the beginning of Yesterday's Enterprise (including the main bridge crew, who are always the lead characters). it would be poor dramatically if the entire main cast of the show died in the opening scene of the last episode, since the last episode is supposed to be about wrapping up their storylines with one more story about them. Maybe the series would end right before the battle with the Romulans, and then Yesterday's Enterprise could be recommended for viewing, or shown in a different sequence (like without any scenes aboard the E-D because that was only Castillo's and Garret's POV.)
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Although the feasibility of even having a sixth series is an argument in and of itself, suufice it to say that I'd be happy with a prequel series that took place any time between the 23rd century part of ST:Generations, and the demise of the Enterprise-C.
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I think a different format would be interesting. Keep it in the twenty-fourth century, if you must, but change things up. For instance, make it a completely civillian show. A cop drama on an outpost world. A hospital series at a contested colony during the Dominion War. Or do a spy show, with a Starfleet Intelligence infiltrator in the Orion Syndicate. Mission: Impossible in space. What about a show about some Federation Councillors, or a legal show?
To tell you the truth, the oft-discussed Starfleet Academy series would work, if they didn't try to make it into a traditional Star Trek quasi-action show. If the show was really about the characters and their developments and (not neccessarily romantic) relationships, there would be no need for contrivences for adventure.
Maybe it sounds silly to have Star Trek settings behind what amounts to a mainstream show, but it would add a realism to the universe that's never been seen before. Besides, it's not like there could never be action, science, or adventure...
Bottom line is, as much as I like Star Trek, I think the premise is getting stale. Even with as disparate incarnations as Deep Space Nine and Voyager, you're still watching uniformed crew doing their thing. Basically, I'd like to see a non-Star Trek series set in the Star Trek universe.
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A starship series based on the USS Prometheus is something I'd like to see.
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quote:Originally posted by Michael_T: A starship series based on the USS Prometheus is something I'd like to see.
Bloody fanboy.
I would like to have seen something during TMP era, back when uniforms were uniforms, Klingons were Klingons, and food were cooked not energized into existenz.
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What!!! Me, a fanboy? I'm just a starship freak...
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quote:the TMP era...back when uniforms were uniforms
I believe the word you are looking for is pajamas.
As far as a series 6 is concerned, I say...
Wait at least until Enterprise finishes, if not several years thereafter.
Unless it's an incredibly creative most amazing premise ever, I'd be incredibly reticent about going any further forward into the future than 2400. Clarke's law is foremost in my mind, here, but also keep in mind that there's essentially nothing to suggest that episodes in the 26th century would come out any differently [in terms of plotting and writing; indeed, I think more perfectly Roddenberrian humans might well be unbearable] than they would in the 24th century, so why not just keep fleshing that one out? "Let's have a ship that has trans-spectral armour and slipstream drive so it can travel to other galaxies" might sound good on a fanboy website but it would translate to the airwaves as essentially another inferior TNG retread. Berman and Braga's reasoning for going to the 22nd century rather than further into the future (it was in a magazine somewhere) is possibly the soundest thing they've ever said in an interview. Stop snickering.
Humanity must remain the focus of any Trek series, or it ain't Trek. Sorry, but the voyages of the IKC Kr'ock holds no interest for me and certainly no interest for any other person I know here at school. Barring a miracle, an alien-centric show would be all-but-assuredly commercially unviable.
I'm with Ryan in the need to branch out from "ship on a mission" premises. The Trek universe is still a very cool playground, but as the hours of Trek mount, it's going to only get harder to stay fresh both as far as ideas are concerned and as far a public patience to keep getting more of the same is concerned. That said, it's no simple task to dig out a corner of the Trek universe and make a compelling show out of it that would impress both people with and without all three printings of the Star Trek Encylcopedia. Star Trek-meets-JAG or Star Trek-meets-West Wing might seem nifty to me and the next dozen people to read this thread, but would it seem nifty to 4,999,987 other people every week?
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I can't see them doing another series concurrent with Enterprise. It'd be too confusing for people who aren't familiar with the other series. Wouldn't matter what time frame you set it in, you'd still have to jump back and forth between series.
At least with TNG and DS9's, and DS9 and Voyager's overlapping runs, everything was set in the same timeframe. The casual viewer at least knew when they were.
I love Ryan's idea about an alternate premise. I was fond of the Section 31 idea. We'd have a spy show that took place aboard ships, stations, on planets, in uniform and out of uniform (which gets back to the romance angle...ba-dum bing ) ...there would just be a lot of variety and the main characters wouldn't always be the "good guys".
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i think that any show that was about more than just standard starfleet would help flesh out the trek universe. however, i think that a section 31 show would be tbe only viable alternative to a ship or station show. section 31 would still be recognizable for the average trek viewer, but would give the series more variety.
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