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What!!! Me, a fanboy? I'm just a starship freak...
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quote:the TMP era...back when uniforms were uniforms
I believe the word you are looking for is pajamas.
As far as a series 6 is concerned, I say...
Wait at least until Enterprise finishes, if not several years thereafter.
Unless it's an incredibly creative most amazing premise ever, I'd be incredibly reticent about going any further forward into the future than 2400. Clarke's law is foremost in my mind, here, but also keep in mind that there's essentially nothing to suggest that episodes in the 26th century would come out any differently [in terms of plotting and writing; indeed, I think more perfectly Roddenberrian humans might well be unbearable] than they would in the 24th century, so why not just keep fleshing that one out? "Let's have a ship that has trans-spectral armour and slipstream drive so it can travel to other galaxies" might sound good on a fanboy website but it would translate to the airwaves as essentially another inferior TNG retread. Berman and Braga's reasoning for going to the 22nd century rather than further into the future (it was in a magazine somewhere) is possibly the soundest thing they've ever said in an interview. Stop snickering.
Humanity must remain the focus of any Trek series, or it ain't Trek. Sorry, but the voyages of the IKC Kr'ock holds no interest for me and certainly no interest for any other person I know here at school. Barring a miracle, an alien-centric show would be all-but-assuredly commercially unviable.
I'm with Ryan in the need to branch out from "ship on a mission" premises. The Trek universe is still a very cool playground, but as the hours of Trek mount, it's going to only get harder to stay fresh both as far as ideas are concerned and as far a public patience to keep getting more of the same is concerned. That said, it's no simple task to dig out a corner of the Trek universe and make a compelling show out of it that would impress both people with and without all three printings of the Star Trek Encylcopedia. Star Trek-meets-JAG or Star Trek-meets-West Wing might seem nifty to me and the next dozen people to read this thread, but would it seem nifty to 4,999,987 other people every week?
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I can't see them doing another series concurrent with Enterprise. It'd be too confusing for people who aren't familiar with the other series. Wouldn't matter what time frame you set it in, you'd still have to jump back and forth between series.
At least with TNG and DS9's, and DS9 and Voyager's overlapping runs, everything was set in the same timeframe. The casual viewer at least knew when they were.
I love Ryan's idea about an alternate premise. I was fond of the Section 31 idea. We'd have a spy show that took place aboard ships, stations, on planets, in uniform and out of uniform (which gets back to the romance angle...ba-dum bing ) ...there would just be a lot of variety and the main characters wouldn't always be the "good guys".
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i think that any show that was about more than just standard starfleet would help flesh out the trek universe. however, i think that a section 31 show would be tbe only viable alternative to a ship or station show. section 31 would still be recognizable for the average trek viewer, but would give the series more variety.
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One other idea might be fun, but perhaps not the most original.
Go ahead and push it another two hundred years past TNG... to a time when some presently-unknown force (the Kelvans? Ooh...) has decimated our galaxy and colonized it. All that's left of the races we know are pockets of resistence scattered accross random worlds, sturggling to survive. They could have transwarp or slipstream or whatever, and groovy weapons, but none of the miracle tech lost in the big wipeout. That lets us see into The Future [tm] without getting into the Clarkian difficulties (which are my grounds for not being interested in a post 2380 series).
Of course, that's also just Star Wars without the Force.
quote:Originally posted by EdipisReks: section 31 would still be recognizable for the average trek viewer
Section 31 was in 3 episodes out of, what, 600 or so? That's like 0.5%. It would be trivially easy for a large portion of the audience to have never heard of the group.
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i didn't mean recognizable as "oh yeah, we kow who they are", but instead as "oh, they are like regular starfleet only secret like mission impossible. we get it".
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quote:Originally posted by Ryan McReynolds: One other idea might be fun, but perhaps not the most original.
Go ahead and push it another two hundred years past TNG... to a time when some presently-unknown force (the Kelvans? Ooh...) has decimated our galaxy and colonized it. All that's left of the races we know are pockets of resistence scattered accross random worlds, sturggling to survive. They could have transwarp or slipstream or whatever, and groovy weapons, but none of the miracle tech lost in the big wipeout. That lets us see into The Future [tm] without getting into the Clarkian difficulties (which are my grounds for not being interested in a post 2380 series).
Of course, that's also just Star Wars without the Force.
*coughAndromedacough*
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I think its kind of funny that 'Andromeda' was pushed by Majel Barrett as the next 'Star Trek' series, a few years ago. She was turned down, and lo' and behold ...
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Before JAG - I always thought Star Trek: JAG would have been good!
What about Star Trek: Merchantman... we know how it ends...
Star Trek: Maquis?
Star Trek: Whale Probe - 178 episodes of whale song ;o)
Star Trek: Excelsior
Temporal Investigators
Photonics 'r' Us
EMH - the story of the EMH - back-up's journey home...
The Federation Council a la The West Wing
Space Dock 1.
A show with civilians and their own ship
Star Trek: First Contact - following the crew involved in first contact of a civilisation from initial visit, to undercover observations to the planet's first steps into outerspace.
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Why does everyone like Section 31 so much? .. they are assholes.. if i wanted to see ultra-conservative, conspiratorial murderers running governments behind the scenes, I'd watch the news.
I'd like to think we'd move beyond that bullshit by the time of Roddenberry's perfect worlds. Even the Section 31 novels, which were pretty good stories, were impossibly depressing.
What about Star Trek: Assignment Earth. Either do it a period show taking place in the 60s-70s-80s with new actors to play Roberta Lincoln, Gary Seven (and Noon Singh! heheheh).. or have it take place now with Robert Lansing and Teri Garr reprising their roles and training new younger secret agents!
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Truly an amazing feat, especially if they can animate Lansing's 8-years-dead corpse. I'm sure the makeup budget alone to make him even barely passable would be prohibitive. He might stink a bit, too
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quote:What about Star Trek: Assignment Earth. Either do it a period show taking place in the 60s-70s-80s with new actors to play Roberta Lincoln, Gary Seven (and Noon Singh! heheheh).. or have it take place now with Robert Lansing and Teri Garr reprising their roles and training new younger secret agents!
You know, "Assignment: Earth" was originally pitched as a spin-off to 'Star Trek.' I sound like a bad record.
Andrew, I like your idea about the first contact series. Have to be a different name, tho ... a TNG episode, a TNG movie, and a new series all with the same name?! Aiy!
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I would have known about Lansing except that I'm afraid to go to IMDB now that it opens exactly 3 popups every page you visit on that site.
I assumed he was still alive because i just saw him in an episode of Simon & Simon the other day.. (gotta stop smoking weed long enough to realize that Simon & Simon wasnt recently produced)..
oh well.. new actors then.. i still think that Assignment Earth wouldve been a great series.. it would have diversified the Trek universe a lot (kept it on TV during the 70s.. introduced crossovers and followups and what have you and maybe been a vehicle to make Phase II more viable)
And if youve read The Eugenics Wars you know about all the zany adventures that Seven and Roberta had.. they uncovered the Stepford Wives, fought Devidians, used Guinan as an informant, and were there for all the events leading up to the hush hush Eugenics wars. Crazy!
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