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Ritten
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Threw it away then, pretty much the same thing I've done....

I guess another thread could be Black People in Leading Star Trek Rolls (i.e., the Captains Chair) - Where are they?

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Peregrinus
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Well, so far we've had one white Canadian man (I'm not counting the pilot -- sorry, Jeff), one white Englishman, one brown American man, one white American woman, and one white American man. Seems like a pretty accurate reflection of society as a whole (unfortunately), but it's a start.

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Off-topic a bit:
Wait a sec, so Archer is Canadian?
Or are you referring to the backgrounds of the actors themselves, so thus the fact that William Shatner is Canadian?

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Peregrinus
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The actors.

--Jonah

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Jason Abbadon
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You forgot Sulu!
Sulu's black.

Scotty was a Captain as well: for your "drunk scottsman" quota. [Wink]

And what's up with Uhura?!? She had to sit at the back of the bridge! Bastards!

And Admiral Nachayev! What the hell is she anyway?
A total bitch, I think...

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Peregrinus
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Meanwhile, we're talking about the series leads -- the Captains of the ships (and station).

--Jonah

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PsyLiam
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Sulu is black?

quote:
Originally posted by Peregrinus:
Seems like a pretty accurate reflection of society as a whole (unfortunately), but it's a start.

Er, why unfortunately? Are you saying that all white people should stop breading for a century or so to allow black people to catch up?

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Sulu was black in one of those old comics (Gold Key?), and Uhura was a white blonde. And M'Ress looked like an Orion slave girl.

Probably had something to do with copyright or something, and the comic only possessing the rights to the likenesses of Kirk, Spock and McCoy...

When you lament "poor continuity" in modern Trek, remember to think of the alternatives... [Smile]

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Jason Abbadon
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There's a DC comic where Spok has two left hands in one panel.
Baaaad art fuck-up there. [Wink]

Nothing new to comics though: I have a X-Force comic where Wolverine's claws are far longer than his forearms. [Eek!]

Really, the idea of new captains being of a certain ethnic mix to be P.C. is silly:
The real minorities among captains are the aliens.
A Bolian Captain would be pretty easy to make-up each week....mabye Captain Rixx could star. [Wink]

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Ritten
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Yes, not starting as a commander, but coming on as the Captain....

Hell, if they follow O'Brian long enough he'll have a ship before too long....

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Jason Abbadon
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O'Brien's not an officer so he'll never get a ship.
....unless mabye it's a SCE ship.
Mabye.

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Omega
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The problem with an alien captain is that the captain is the lead character, and the audience is expected to relate to that character. Aliens are rarely written that well in televised Trek. We always seem to come back to the fact that we don't trust the writers to handle a good premise. [Smile]

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Ritten
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quote:
Originally posted by Omega:
We always seem to come back to the fact that we don't trust the writers to handle a good premise. [Smile]

Well, we just don't really trust the majority of writers with any part of Trek....

Black people are aliens????

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quote:
Originally posted by Ritten:
Black people are aliens????

Only if they cross into another country. If they do so without papers they'd be "illegal aliens". [Big Grin]

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Liam, when I said it was a pretty accurate reflection of society, I was referring to the rough distribution of people in authority positions -- largely white males.

--Jonah

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