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Zipacna
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Indeed, it must have been Kirk. Everyone knows Kirk had a grandma fetish. Indeed his encounter with the Ferengi and the so-called Moogiegate are required reading at the Academy...
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Star Trek Online's take on the ships present at Wolf 359
https://drive.google.com/file/d/12eo88lcqbj0ew3lFyv4bpdXTYmAJuswX/view

Not going to bother to point out the inconsistencies.

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Lee
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It’s fucking moronic, is what it is. Given we - still? - only know the names of about a dozen ships that were there, and can infer a few more I think, any exercise in naming them all becomes very subjective. But this particular example is just stupid. The Akira-class prototype USS Kaneda? Was the artist dropped on his head as a child?

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Lee
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(Also quite amusing to read back through this thread nearly twenty years after its initiation! I wonder what us then would think of everything we’ve seen since, the warp effects in nuTrek with ships slamming out of warp to a complete stop, seemingly appearing from nowhere. Or the Holdo Manoeuvre…)

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I'm no fan of the Niagara or Freedom classes, finding them less than properly consistent with other designs . . . but then I see the Discoverse design inclusions in this and suddenly the Niagara is frickin' beautiful.

The Vesper class toward the upper right doesn't look wholly implausible, from a top view, but the Parliament and Shikahr are pretty goofy. If you start including non-round saucers too early, and then have zero consistency in regards to angle, then the whole concept behind ellipsoid saucers becomes mere fashion choice.

If starship design is purely a function of fashion, with new designs coming out each season emerging from starbase as if strutting down a runway with a blank expression, then there's nothing interesting about starships anymore.

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Honestly, I don't mind the ShiKahr. It looks like a later take on a Miranda, though maybe a little more like VOY-era, rather than mid-TNG.

I'm not a huge fan of the Parliament, but I can definitely imagine it showing up in one of the later TNG films.

The Vesper looks way too Discovery for my tastes.

The Georgiou looks like someone said "what if Centaur, but more".

And the Narendra looks like an attempt at an Ambassador refit, to which I say : if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

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Lee
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If anything, the Narendra looks like they’re trying to canonise the Probert-C design.

Speaking of which - recently on Twitter a user turned up claiming to be Probert (used the handle @the_probert I think)… and proceeded to express the most horrifically repellent views. Racism, homophobia, transphobia, you name it. The account immediately came in for a universally hostile response before either going private or getting deleted. Very odd.

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Shik
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Sadly, that would be in line with what I've heard come from Andy Probert's conservatism.

Also, I use the Probert E-C as the Renaissance class. It fit well.

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"If anything, the Narendra looks like they’re trying to canonise the Probert-C design."


Oh, good point. I think you're probably right.

That's too bad about Probert apparently being a piece of shit, but what can you do, I guess?

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Probert left the territory of conservatism a long time ago.

https://www.instagram.com/probert_designs/
He's all about chemtrails, conspiracy theories and Trump nowadays.

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quote:
Originally posted by TSN:

The Georgiou looks like someone said "what if Centaur, but more".

Perfectly put.

As for Probert, I commented on him seven years ago here, but the simple fact is that I wouldn't trust anyone else to design the future.

http://flare.solareclipse.net/ultimatebb.php/topic/11/1665.html

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Ah, that explains why I had this extremely vague feeling that I'd heard about it before.
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Lee
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Don’t remember that at all. But as I get older, it’s incredible how little I do remember. I recently saw a picture of myself from a year or two before that - it’s before I had the beard I’ve had ever since shortlyafter that! - and I’m wearing a top that looks vaguely familiar but which I don’t remember owning but obviously discarded years ago. But it’s the way I feel only a vague sense of recognition but no associate no memories with that strikes me, in a troubling way.

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