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Got Charles to remove the old shiptext.zip, so that I could upload a newer version under the same name. Improvements over the previous versions:
-Mass figures for almost all Part I ships, from the DY ships up to the Cheyenne class (although most are still subject to deep self-doubt)
-Revised early SFC ships, especially Liberty and Verne classes, now closer to the original material (but not quite ENT-compatible)
-Some revised small craft, especially Falcon interceptors (but Part II is still in shambles, generally speaking)
quote:Originally posted by Timo: But the Wright-Corder version wasn't explained as a result of USS Resolution re-refit - it was just something done differently to a couple of standard Suryas for the sheer sake of being different (ITRW, it was an excuse for Guenther to include some early fan blueprints that didn't look completely correct...).
SofSF co-author Aridas posted this at Trek BBS and explained that the W-C variant was based on a Reliant study model.
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Apparently, the big one is the work in progress on the actual reliant.
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New stuff for the Guide, still at the old address. Early Spaceflight Chronology ships streamlined a lot, some changes in the small craft sections, and mass figures added to most designs, save for TNG era ships.
More importantly, the first guest entries are there. Wraith has done the Polaris heavy destroyer and accompanying Constant scout, based on the "A Time to Stand"/DS9 TM Constitution variant - and an exciting take on the Kirsanov large perimeter action ship that gets but a mention in "Ships of the Star Fleet". I'd love to see an artist's impression on the latter!
Is the text of the original "SotSF II" available online somewhere? I'm itching to finally enter Guenther's perimeter ships, yet there's no domestic outlet that would give me access to the book itself.
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Updated again, with new ships by Wraith and stuff. The newer version is shiptext2.zip, at least until the older shiptext.zip is removed.
Perhaps I should redo the 22nd century after all? There aren't that many established designs there, save for a couple of SFC ones that are too ugly to be used as is. I could go all NX-01 saucer-style, leaving the sphere-hulled ships be a distinct minority of wussy science vessels...
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How about using some of the SFM designs, if Masao gives permission?
Overwise, yeah the saucers for warships, spheres for science vessels sounds like a good idea. The balencing of internal space vs subspace field efficeincy and all that.
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I'm not sure about SFM. It's such a well thought out whole in itself - and somewhat at odds with the idea of trying to fit in the SFC and FASA histories. I guess I have a priority list of canon > background production material > printed fanwork and RPGs > self-made patches > online fanwork...
And I hate to take some, lose some, even though I already do it with FASA. I try to endorse SFC and SotSF as completely as possible, and I'd love to do that with SFM if it wasn't so darn much better than / different from the other material.
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Another update with more Wraith Stuff in there. This thing is gradually coming shipshape... TNG-era ships still need quite a bit of work. And perhaps I'll still do a revamp to accommodate ENT somehow.
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If Timo wants to try to shoehorn the SFM ships into some other continuity, he has my blessings and my sympathy! Actually, James Dixon put some of them in his chronology, which really surprised me.
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1) give all the unseen (Placido and the like) or unrepresentable (Castor, Horizon) conjectural classes saucerlike hulls, 2) demote the Daedalus and Mann to semi-civilian science vessels of inferior warp-dynamic shape, 3) mix the "particle cannon" and "phase cannon" nomenclature into an unholy fudge, so that they essentially describe the same FTL visible-in-vacuum beam weapon, 4) briefly introduce laser weaponry for the era between ENT and TOS, as a secondary armament superior to plasma guns but inferior to refined phasers (ships that have lasers will also have phase guns as their primary armament), and also remove all references to lasers from pre-ENT ships and go for plasma guns instead, 5) ignore the idea that transporters were introduced in the 2230s, and just consider that a "major upgrade" of Earth-indigenous systems from Mk I to Mk II, 6) do something similar to antimatter power production (or then the NX class will be an abandoned experiment, much like SS Savannah and SS Otto Hahn were for commercial fission propulsion, and the 2230s will mark the rebirth of the concept), 7) move the Tyme Barrier from warp four to warp five or six, and adjust performance specs of pre-TOS ships accordingly, 8) and curl up into a ball in the corner and sob uncontrollably for 4.7 hours.
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Okay...you've got some well-reasoned points there...and I can't argue with them...but you can't make me like it!
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