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Lee
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OK, so a TOSed Miranda called the Defiant, registry looks like NCC-(might be a 1 there?)7(3, 6, 8 or even 0)4. I'm gonna take a stab and say NCC-764. And the USS Newton, registry NCC-1737. Which means that there are ships with higher registries then the just-commissioned Enterprise. Which kinda backs up my suggestion that the development of the Constitution-class might have been held up by the events which created the tangent universe.

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Dukhat
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Well, this looks like concept art, not the actual CG renders, so the names and numbers could be different in the actual movie, especially since neither the Newton or the Defiant was mentioned in dialog (unless they're the two unknown ships, but one of them might be the Mayflower...), but besides that, it looks like we now have views of the mysterious third type of Starfleet vessel docked at the station.
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Sean
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The TOSed Miranda reg looks like NCC-1764 to me. Which, kinda geeks me out, as the first Miranda we saw was the Reliant, NCC 1864. Maybe I'm just making connections that aren't there, but it just seems interesting to me. Also, the registry of the Constitution class Defiant in TOS and ENT IaMD is NCC 1764, so there's a nice reference to the Prime timeline.

The ships shown could have also represented the first ships of their classes. So, perhaps we have the Newton class, and the Defiant class.

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The TOSed Miranda reg looks like NCC-1764 to me. Which, kinda geeks me out, as the first Miranda we saw was the Reliant, NCC 1864. Maybe I'm just making connections that aren't there
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Nice one, Mars. Sweet views on those ships, they look TOS-ish yet sleek, without the former clunkiness.
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Dukhat
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An exhaustive ship information list compiled by yours truly.

Ships in the novelization

1. Newton
2. Defiant
3. Odyssey
4. Mayflower
5. Farragut
6. Drake
7. Enterprise
8. Potemkin
9. Bradbury
10. Kongo
11. Endeavour
12. Antares
13. Excelsior
14. Armstrong
15. Starbase 3 (space station)
16. Regula 1 (space station)


Ships shown on the Shipcharts

1. Newton NCC-1727 (Ship Type 2)
2. Mayflower NCC-1621 (Ship Type 3)
3. Enterprise NCC-1701
4. Armstrong NCC-1769 (Ship Type 1)
5. Excelsior NCC-1729 (Ship Type 1)
6. Defiant NCC-1764 (Ship Type 3)


Ships shown docked at Space Station

1. Ship Type 1 (Three nacelled ship - green)
2. Ship Type 2 (Two-nacelled/two secondary
hulled ship - red)
3. Ship Type 2 (Two-nacelled/two secondary
hulled ship - red)
4. Ship Type 2 (Two-nacelled/two secondary
hulled ship - red)
5. Ship Type 3 (Full saucer/two nacelled
ship - blue)
6. Ship Type 3 (Full saucer/two nacelled
ship - blue)
7. Ship Type 3 (Full saucer/two nacelled
ship - blue)
8. Enterprise NCC-1701 - yellow
9. Small Ship Type 1 - purple
10. Small Ship Type 2 - purple
11. Small Ship Type 3 - purple
12. Small Ship Type 4 - purple

http://www.box.net/shared/f4ouala2dm


Ships named in the Movie

1. Newton
2. Mayflower
3. Odyssey
4. Farragut
5. Enterprise
6. Antares
7. Hood
8. Wolcott
9. Truman
10. Regula 1 (space station)


Also of note: Two of the Small Ships are still in the same positions when the Enterprise finally warps away: http://www.box.net/shared/ebvehg3ti6

I think the ship on the left might be John Eaves' TOS version of his "U.S.S. Phoenix" from Star Trek: Armada: http://www.box.net/shared/086zzada2n

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Amasov Prime
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The Phoenix above is the same image they used in the AoST. The Klingon concepts have previously appeared as concepts for ST:Enterprise. I suppose the other Starfleet concept isn't new either. So I guess Eaves just recycled some stuff for the movie or the authors recycled some stuff for the book.

Btw, excellent work on that list!

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Dukhat
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Thanks!

Did the other concept look like this?

http://www.box.net/shared/fn4re3uody

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MinutiaeMan
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Watched the movie again for the first time since the theaters. And I thought of an interesting interpretation of one line, where Ayel says there are seven ships approaching.

Could that line be interpreted to be the first wave of ships, and exclude the Enterprise (which was farther out)? 'Cause they later refer to the Enterprise as "another" ship, acting as if they hadn't included that ship with the previous batch.

That could mean that there were eight ships in the fleet.

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Jason Abbadon
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I think they notified the discovery on subspace.
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Amasov Prime
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quote:
Originally posted by Dukhat:
Thanks!

Did the other concept look like this?

http://www.box.net/shared/fn4re3uody

Close. The front (the ring - it's supposed to be the front, isn't it?) is similar. I took a photo, but I can't upload it for some reason. It tells me I need 250 posts to upload.

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Yeah, FlareUpload is fubared at the moment. I'd recommend another photo sharing site; Picasa, Flikr, Photobucket, etc.

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Dukhat
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Here's the pic, courtesy of Amasov:

http://www.box.net/shared/ff3jbp5xq1

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Mmmm...concept art, I live for this stuff.
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Fabrux
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It always seems that concept art is better than the final product...

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