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Well, that's simple. You need a half-round hull cut. Like this.See?
Seriously. The names Anasazi & Anahuac stick in my mind for this thing. And any idea what those dorsal strakes are supposed to be? Sensor blisters perhaps? And I still keep seeing those nacelles & pylons raised up a bit.
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quote:Originally posted by Shik: Well, that's simple. You need a half-round hull cut. Like this.See?
Thanks. Those will be helpful. Looks like I'll have to cut away a tunnel in the front of the dorsal mound to clear a path for the deflector in front.
quote:Originally posted by Shik: Seriously. The names Anasazi & Anahuac stick in my mind for this thing. And any idea what those dorsal strakes are supposed to be? Sensor blisters perhaps? And I still keep seeing those nacelles & pylons raised up a bit.
I've already had a class with native American names, so I won't use them for this class.
The strakes are off USS Huron, of course. I'm going to say they are some sort of deflector system, mostly to protect the bridge.
Finally, here are the schematics for the single-nacelle variant. I think I actually like this one better. Single-nacelle destroyer
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Lurvley.
For the single-naceller...I dunno. Fiji, Dido, & Shenzhou popped onto mind. Still like the idea of both variants.
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That single-nacelle one looks... interesting. Beefed up, but maybe a bit too similar to FJ's Saladin? I know, I know.... can't be helped.
One suggestion from an artistic POV, Masao. This applies to both versions, but I first noticed it on the single-nacelle version because there's a bit less there to look at.
I'd suggest that you add some more detailing to the bussard collectors -- I know you probably left off those forward spikes since the 2250's are getting into the era where they're gone. But looking at it from the front view, the plain gradient looks a little too... well, flat. Perhaps adding those radial lines like on the classic Enterprise? You know, the ones that spin round and round?
Lookin' cool!
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I think it's intersting design, even though I don't like single nacelled ships (well, maybe not that I don't like those ships, it's just they look like one-legged chicken with only once nacelle ) Have you considered variant with another nacelle under the first?
Oh, and impulse engine placement is... unusual, but nice. But it looks to me that exhaust from those engines will go diagonally up, straight at that poor shuttle
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quote:Originally posted by MinutiaeMan: I'd suggest that you add some more detailing to the bussard collectors -- I know you probably left off those forward spikes since the 2250's are getting into the era where they're gone. But looking at it from the front view, the plain gradient looks a little too... well, flat. Perhaps adding those radial lines like on the classic Enterprise? You know, the ones that spin round and round?
Yeah, I've thought about that, but I started out trying to mimic the flat red caps of "The Cage" version! adding a bit of yellow was a big step for me. I'll probably keep them that way.
quote:Originally posted by Kazeite: Have you considered variant with another nacelle under the first?
Oh, and impulse engine placement is... unusual, but nice. But it looks to me that exhaust from those engines will go diagonally up, straight at that poor shuttle
No stacked nacelles. I don't see any advantage in that.
The impulse thruster housing just looks angled. I'm sure the engineers have ensured the thrust will be horizontal.
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Wow!!!!!! Very nice design Masao. I especially like the fact that you made both classes smaller than the Constitution-class and Constitution derived starship classes. Although the single nacelle ship looks like a member of the Federation starship family, I don't think it will ever be confused with a Saladin/Hermes destroyer or scout.
Kudos to Jason Colbert for the nacelle design as well.
Have you thought of possible names for this class? I think that it would be an interesting, and refreshing, change if members of the class were named for historical figures, famous ships, or myths from East Asia (Japan, Korea, Thailand etc.) and India. Ancient civilizations and Occidental cultures seem to be predominant in Starfleet starship names. I have grown tired of seeing starships named for Roman and Greek mythology.
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Masao, I didn't mean that the third paragraph applied to your creations in the "Starfleet Museum". You seem to use plenty of names from East Asia and Indian culture and history.
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Fantastic as usual Masao. Possibly the single nacelle design could be a scout and the two nacelle the destroyer, similar to the Saladin/Hermes designations.
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I'm trying to decide the final size of this ship. originally I had it at 156 m but am considering blowing it up 25% to 196 m. Opinions? (Also note that I've fixed the size fo the bridge to match Constitution's)
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As a destroyer the larger version is better. Considering that the Saladin with a full size Connie saucer was in service at this time.
Either size would work well as a smaller ship (corvette say).
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I prefer the smaller; The Connie is a Heavy Cruiser, the largest ship built by Earth in her time. I see them as equivalent to the WW2 Alaska class for her time. Destroyers would be considerably samller. I also like the bridge of the destroyer being smaller, with fewer stations or just not as much room for a similar number of bridge crew.
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hey, that's cool... kinda like an old-fashioned charleston class, you know? it was a 3d ship some guy designed... anyhow yes, this is cool
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