quote:Originally posted by Bernd: Once again a never seen before design approach. Great!
I'd go with the two-nacelled version, with the nacelle struts slightly running upward.
Well, it's not entirely new. I took the head off of Pyotr Velikiy, the forward bridge off of Paris and the secondary hull off Al-Burak. But I like the slightly snaky look of this ship.
I think I will have both types, however.
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I don't have a ruler on me to figure out howbig the saucer is, but for a 160 meters ship, it looks like the saucer is only a few decks thick. I hope it's not going to have everything inside including the kitchen sink inside. If you do, I estimate less than a dozen could fit confortably inside Starfleet style (though if it went Navy style you could fit a good 100 people inside).
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quote:Originally posted by Matrix: I don't have a ruler on me to figure out howbig the saucer is, but for a 160 meters ship, it looks like the saucer is only a few decks thick. I hope it's not going to have everything inside including the kitchen sink inside. If you do, I estimate less than a dozen could fit confortably inside Starfleet style (though if it went Navy style you could fit a good 100 people inside).
Yup. It is a very small ship internally. Most of the length comes from the nacelles, which are, of course, uninhabitable. I'm thinking of scaling it up a bit, but I wanted this ship to have a small head and long legs.
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quote:Originally posted by Matrix: I don't have a ruler on me to figure out howbig the saucer is, but for a 160 meters ship, it looks like the saucer is only a few decks thick. I hope it's not going to have everything inside including the kitchen sink inside. If you do, I estimate less than a dozen could fit confortably inside Starfleet style (though if it went Navy style you could fit a good 100 people inside).
Yup. It is a very small ship internally. Most of the length comes from the nacelles, which are, of course, uninhabitable. I'm thinking of scaling it up a bit, but I wanted this ship to have a small head and long legs.
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Small ships are more of a challenge to design. I see two full decks with living space in the saucer, plus the bridge. The deflector would be most likely uninhabitable (meaning there would be only Jefferies tubes). The neck and secondary hull would be entirely occupied by fuel storage and a small engineering area.
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Very cool Masao! Love the design idea! Would you mind if I made a 3D model from the design, You're initial designs interest me greatly, especially the nacelles. Maybe some illuminated venting between the fins at the back of the nacelle.....Have you considered inverting her (nacelles above the primary hull?)
quote:Originally posted by Makotokat: Very cool Masao! Love the design idea! Would you mind if I made a 3D model from the design, You're initial designs interest me greatly, especially the nacelles. Maybe some illuminated venting between the fins at the back of the nacelle.....Have you considered inverting her (nacelles above the primary hull?)
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1. Sure, go ahead. I'm working on the final schematics now. 2. The nacelles were from a design by Jason Colbert. I just "liberated" them. Mess with them as you'd like. 3. I haven't considered that!
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Thanks my friend! I don't feel busy unless i've got about 5 projects on the go and this one looks pretty interesting! I might add a little texture detail as I go but I'll keep true. BTW I finally found where my D2 files went and I look forward to finishing texturing her (nacelles are about all I need to do now but they're tricky)
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Ack! A straight inversion would be a VERY bad idea! If there were a rearrangement of the sections, then possibly... but then it'd end up looking much more like the Paris class.
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Not a straight inversion no.....Move the shuttlebay under the hull flaring out from the deflector housing, then a low neck fluting into a engineering pod....let me try the original first
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Okay, I see what you mean... however, IMO that arrangement would be (as I said) too similar to the earlier Paris-class light cruiser that Masao designed about a year ago. One of Masao's traits that make him such an excellent designer is his desire to have as much variety as possible for the different classes. (Barring, of course, those obvious kitbashes where such kitbashing is intentional and considered. )
But who knows? It might be worth considering... though I think I'd still prefer the current configuration. It's more traditional, and also specifically related to the well-known FJ Saladin class -- even though the ships aren't supposed to have anything really in common, anyway...
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Well I've got the saucer done so far as bridge, shuttlebay, torpedo mounts, and deflector pod (still need to add dish to it though)and she looks like a good start! I'll start out with Masao's original design and build her up. I'm still a little leary of those nacelle struts mind....so I might modify them a bit, more TOS-ish. I'll post a pic of the progress tomorrow.
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I'm had trouble with the deflector mount. It's similar to the one on my Pyotry Velikiy class but doesn't extent as far forward. Maybe a modeler can help hash out the details there.
I'm working on the single nacelle version right now.
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