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Triton
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Masao do I see an Avenger-class destroyer NCC-D100? Is another of the destroyers going to be named Reliant?

I think that I like the 156 meter size the best. I liked the fact that it was a lot smaller than the Constitution-class and the Saladin/Hermes-classes. I was thinking that your destroyer design could be produced in greater quantities and in less time than the Saladin/Hermes-classes. Perhaps the shipyards could build four of the smaller destroyers for the time it takes to build one of the larger destroyers.

And I think size has little to do with offensive firepower, look at the modern Ticonderoga-class guided missile cruiser at 173 meters in length. This battle cruiser is part of a carrier battle group and principally designed to protect aircraft carriers that are about the size of the Constitution-class heavy cruiser.

The final decision is of course yours to make, but if given the choice I would chose the smaller size. [Smile]

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Oh, now I think I know the issue about the size! [Smile] I presume Masao that you are concerned about the size of the the new destroyer because its so close to that of your 22nd century Paris-class Light Cruiser at 129.56 meters.

Hmmm... in that case, I would probably increase the size of the destroyer by 25%.

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Originally posted by Triton:
Oh, now I think I know the issue about the size! [Smile] I presume Masao that you are concerned about the size of the the new destroyer because its so close to that of your 22nd century Paris-class Light Cruiser at 129.56 meters.

Not exactly. I'm not really worried about comparisons with the Paris class, but more about whether this ship will look like a bug next to a Constitution. I have always thought that Hermes/Saladins had unnecessarily large primary hulls, so my mod of them (posted earlier: Hermes) had smaller discs; but again, they're not really relevant here. I suspect that ships of the same type would tend grow larger over time, just as heavy cruisers have.

About the name: Minutiae Man came up with that one! USS Avenger as a designation for Reliant's class is not canon (and Miranda might not be either, for that matter). I'm going to give all the ships names ending with -er, -or, or -ur, such as Marauder, Interceptor, Invader, Savior, Boxer.

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Cool naming scheme Masao!

May I suggest Blazer from HMS Blazer, the ship that gave us the garment of the same name. I also like Smiter,Dasher, Puncher, Charger, Reaper, Ranger, Trumpeter, Pursuer, Gleaner, Biter, Ravager, Slinger, Trouncer, Hunter, Stalker, Fencer, Battler, Chaser, Striker, Tracker, Attacker, and Victor all names from ships in the Royal Navy.

You could also use Donner, which means thunder in German.

I always thought that these names would be appropriate for Akira-class or Streamrunner-class starships because they sound so offensive in the warlike sense. [Wink]

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Here's a preliminary list of names that I'm considering:
Advisor, Aggressor, Ambusher, Ambassador, Annihilator, Arbiter, Archer, Attacker, Avenger, Aviator, Barker, Basher, Battler, Berserker, Biter, Blaster, Blazer, Blocker, Bombardier, Boomer, Bounder, Boxer, Brawler, Breaker, Bruiser, Buccaneer, Bugler, Bustler, Cannoneer, Carabiner, Challenger, Chancellor, Charger, Charioteer, Chaser, Chevalier, Commander, Competitor, Confounder, Conjurer, Conqueror, Contender, Counselor, Courier, Crusader, Crusher, Curassier, Dancer, Darter, Dasher, Dazzler, Defender, Devastator, Disrupter, Dodger, Dominator, Drummer, Enforcer, Engineer, Executor, Explorer, Fencer, Fighter, Flyer, Freebooter, Galloper, Gladiator, Gleamer, Governor, Grappler, Grenadier, Growler, Gunner/Gunfighter, Harbinger, Harvester, Highlander, Hunter, Hurler, Hussar, Hustler, Igniter, Infiltrator, Inquisitor, Inspector, Interceptor, Intimidator, Invader, Jaeger (with umlaut), Jouster, Jumper, Lancer, Liberator, Marauder, Marcher, Mariner, Mauler, Mentor, Messenger, Meteor, Monster, Musketeer, Navigator, Necromancer, Observer, Outlander, Pathfinder, Patroller, Peacemaker, Persecutor, Persuader, Pincher, Pioneer, Piper, Plunger, Prancer, Predator, Preserver, Privateer, Protector, Provocateur, Provider, Punisher, Pursuer, Questor, Racer, Raider, Ranger, Raptor, Rattler, Ravager, Razer, Reporter, Rescuer, Resister, Responder, Revolver, Roarer, Roughrider, Rover, Runner, Saviour, Schneider, Scorcher, Scourger, Scrapper, Searcher, Seeker, Senator, Sharpshooter, Sidewinder, Signaller, Skirmisher, Skydiver, Slasher, Slayer, Slinger, Smasher, Smiter, Snapper, Snarler, Sniper, Sojourner, Spangler, Spanker, Sparkler, Speaker, Speeder, Spiker, Spinner, Spoiler, Springer, Sprinter, Stalker, Stargazer, Stinger, Strider, Striker, Strummer, Surveyor, Terminator, Thrasher, Thresher, Thriller, Thruster, Thunderer, Tormentor, Tracker, Trailblazer, Traveller, Trekker, Trouncer, Trumpeter, Tusker, Upholder, Usurper, Vanquisher, Venturer, Victor, Vindicator, Voyager, Wanderer, Warrior, Winner, Wrangler, Wrestler

I've got another list of 175 names that I've already rejected!

These include: Vomiter, Retreater, Farter, Motherf*cker, Drooler, Stinker, Hider, Whinger, Sneezer, Bleeder...

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LOL! [Big Grin] Looks like my faves made it!
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Personally, I could go for either size but am edging towards the larger. Are these ships predecessors of or a contemporary design of the Saladin/Hermes classes in 'your' timeline?

The list of names looks damn good to me as well, BTW.

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I'm leaning towards the bigger size, for added capability, for general growth over time, and to allow shuttle craft to fit into the hanger.

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Will you increase the size of the single-nacelled variant by 25% as well? Will this be a different class and type of starship? Or will there be a single-nacelled Avenger-class destroyer?
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I've been talking with Masao via e-mail about this design (among other things). The two variants (single- and dual-nacelle) go together, so both will be the same size. And the single-nacelle design will also be getting its own class designation, most likely -- as I understand what he's said, anyway.

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Yes, Minutiae Man speaks the truth. The one- and two-nacelle variants will be the same from the neck up but will have different warp power trains. Each variant will be a separate class.
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I certainly prefer bigger version, for reasons already stated (shuttlebay big enough to actually acomodate a shuttle, etc).

While we are at it, that bridge module appears to be smaller than Connie bridge module (although it size remains the same on both versions)... It's just smaller, right? [Smile]

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The bridge module is the same size as that of the Connie. I took it directly off my Connie Schematics. It might appear smaller because it doesn't have the teardrop base.
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Oh.

Yep, it certainly looks smaller without deck two structure [Smile]

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Jan Wehlack just sent me some cool renders of my two-nacelle destroyer (less than 200 kb each):
http://flareupload.pleh.net/uploads/232/Avenger_07.jpg
http://flareupload.pleh.net/uploads/232/Avenger_01.jpg

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