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Brown_supahero
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Don't you think Yoda's Fighting Style is similar to the Chinese........... wait how does a 2' green toad bust on a over 6' man when the guy struggled just to get there with his cane.

I guess Yoda was on drugs again

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uhhhhhhhhhh..

actually, one thing that popped in my head when i watched all the sabre battles was 'wasn't this more dramatic when they had actors doing it instead of CGI puppets?!'.. i realize that Yoda was CGI out of necessity, but all of the digitally tweaked fights bothered me.. something just gets lost in the trnslation of it not being very real, as opposed to the Luke trilogy's swordfights, which, out of necessity, were performed by actors and stuntmen holding rods....

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C'mon, he was the only CGI'ed swordsman of the bigwigs. All the other fights were natural, as well you know. Except for some of the background arena-duelers, I know.

Yoda's augmented movement patterns and reach was of course boosted by his control of the force, I think it was great. You do realize that those two duelants were the two most force/sabremighty we have ever seen fighting, in Star Wars?

Dooku would defeat TESB-Vader as well, Vader didn't have anything close to the level of telekinesis and teleelectrocution of Dooku, not to mention limb function and spinal status.

Plus he is older and more experienced than Vader ever got to be, if we go with Chris Lee's real age, him celebrating his eightieth birthday exactly a month ago.

So Dooku is at least the mightiest human Jedi so far. I don't count Palpatine because I don't know if that piece of turd even bothered to learn how to use a sabre.

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I admit that I did quite like Dooku's sabre style, which was far closer to European fencing than the Oriental styles that have usually dominated so far. Don't get me wrong: I love the Chinese and Japanese styles -- I just thought it was cool to see Dooku doing something completely different.

(Sorry, that didn't say much about Yoda's style, did it?)

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I would think that because of his size, Yoda's sabre technique would have to be almost completely original. Unless the Jedi came up with a form specifically for smaller combatants.

As was said before, his leaping attacks were obviously aided by his use of the Force. I'm no martial arts expert, but I would think that his footwork would need to be specifically geared toward someone of his size.

Am I wrong?

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On the silly side, the first thing that went through my mind when I saw Yoda fighting was.....Sonic the Hedgehog (Sonic the Jedi? Yoda the Hedgehog?).

As for all the cgi, well, considering that one of your opponents was originally a Muppet, and the other is a stuntman doing the stuff a 78-year-old actor couldn't possibly do, what else did you expect?

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quote:
Dooku would defeat TESB-Vader as well, Vader didn't have anything close to the level of telekinesis and teleelectrocution of Dooku, not to mention limb function and spinal status.
you have no proof that Vader didn't have these things. he was trying to capture, not kill, Luke. you don't drop a goddam building on someone you are trying to capture, or zap 'em with lightning. besides, Vader is the chosen one and i personally think that Anakin/Vader kills Dooku in episode III.
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I have a feeling Yoda finishes the job in Ep 3. Anakin may kill Mace Windu though, Sam Jackson has said before he doesnt want to die like a chump and he usually gets what he wants.

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quote:
something just gets lost in the trnslation of it not being very real,
Well it is a movie.

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Well a few points

The Yoda sabre scene was one of the lows of the film for me. It was very uninspired. I agree Woodside Kid - The first thing I thought was 'Sonic the Hedgehog'! Actually notice we never got to see even one slow 'move' by Yoda it was all over the place. I reckon this was to counteract the CGI-ness of Yoda and his moving. We had mostly seen Yoda standing or sitting still so far in the prequels. This time we get him to move but low and behold it's so fast we can't even see anything except a swirl of no-dyed cloth and green.

I reckon Yoda and Dooku finish each other off. (in Three) and I reckon Mace get's destroyed by Palpatine - not Annakin.

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I voting that Anakin kills Dooku. I think Palpatine will establish this image that the Jedi have turned against the Republic and that, under his direction, the only "loyal" Jedi, Anakin, helps bring about the end of the Separatist movement by destroying their Leader, Count Dooku.

He may very well kill off Mace, too. Remember that Vader supposedly helped the Emperor hunt down all the remaining Jedi. My guess is that Ep 3 will treat us to a slaughter courtesy of the new Sith Apprentice.

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I wouldnt rule out Anakin killing off Dooku after all we may see another "conversion session" like the one in ROTJ with Palpatine and Dooku trying to convert Anakin. Perhaps Dooku asks Anakin to "strike him down" ala Palpatine in ROTJ.

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"I reckon Yoda and Dooku finish each other off."

So, then, how does Yoda come back to life in time for ep. 5?

And was Dooku's style really like fencing? The book described it that way, and I looked for it in the movie, but I couldn't see any difference between his fighting and anyone else's...

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quote:
Originally posted by TSN:
And was Dooku's style really like fencing? The book described it that way, and I looked for it in the movie, but I couldn't see any difference between his fighting and anyone else's...

Check the start of Anakin's second attack (IIRC -- it's the start of someone's attack, anyway) and you'll see that he goes one-handed, back hand out and away in traditional fencing posture. He does go two-handed later, but his one-handed style did strike me as very fencing-like.
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And I think Dooku does a typical fencer's bow, holding his blade up to his face and then pointing to his adversary.

His saber hilt always makes me think of the indian Khukuri/Ghurka knife, what with the weird angle.
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