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AndrewR
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OK, I get on here, and can't access any boards. The whole thing is changed. What is going on!?!

I'm a NETSCAPE (not 6) user. Some of us don't have the luxury of being able to have new computers. I can't go anything above Explorer 3 and every page you load it comes up with warnings about Javascript errors.

Everything was going nicely until I come here today and I try to click a link on the board and I can't... the links (what few that are there) are a few centimeters above the actual 'word' and invisible. When I eventually TRY to get to post a message, there are no boxes available to type into. And Charles Capps - has no e-mail address. Not in his profile, not at his home page not on the 'solareclipse' web-page - nowhere. SO Please can things be changed back. The white background is also REALLY annoying (but that is the least of the problems).

Not everyone uses IE.

I'll just reiterate this point again for I predict a number of posts (that I probably won't end up being able to read - can someone e-mail me to tell me things have been fixed) saying to download this and that.

Netscape 4.79 user
no Netscape 6 - to big for my computer - it can't handle it (have tried it; had to remove it)
no Internet Explorer version 3 or 4 or 5 or 6 or whatever it goes up to. Too much for my system to handle. Changes too many things on my W95 system.

Can someone e-mail me to let me know things have been fixed. Cause I won't be able to come back here otherwise. (Which I'm sure most of you won't care about).

I've been with all the incarnations of Flare since it's UP web-board days. I like coming here to lend a sarcastic remark or two. [Smile]

Andrew

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AndrewR
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Oh, and Flare just crashed Netscape for the 3rd time for me today.

And a minor point, the new Flare logo - the 'sun' is nice. The writing looks like F/gre.

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PsyLiam
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quote:
Not everyone uses IE.

No. But 92% of people here do. I know it's not much comfort, but there does come a point where trying to remain backwardly compatible gets silly. Only 1.5% of all requests are coming from NS4, and there's a fair chance that that could just be you, Andrew.

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no Internet Explorer version 3 or 4 or 5 or 6 or whatever it goes up to. Too much for my system to handle. Changes too many things on my W95 system.

Trying to help here, so I'll ask, what on Earth do you mean, "Changed too many things on my W95 system"? IE 4 was out before before even Windows 98. And the only changes where those nice little OSR2 type addtions (such as the quick launch bar, I believe).

If you mean your computer actually can't cope with IE 5, then I'm surprised it's coping with Windows at all. I've had IE 5 running on P90s before, no sweat.

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Yes, you're despicable, and... and picable... and... and you're definitely, definitely despicable. How a person can get so despicable in one lifetime is beyond me. It isn't as though I haven't met a lot of people. Goodness knows it isn't that. It isn't just that... it isn't... it's... it's despicable.

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Cartman
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You could always download Opera and/or Mozilla. Both are lightning fast, light weight, relatively small, rock solid browsers with some nifty features built in that neither IE nor NS have. What's more, they support ALL standards -- even the dreaded Microsoft ones.
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Toadkiller
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quote:
Originally posted by Colorful Cartman:
You could always download Opera and/or Mozilla. Both are lightning fast, light weight, relatively small, rock solid browsers with some nifty features built in that neither IE nor NS have. What's more, they support ALL standards -- even the dreaded Microsoft ones.

Opera is a great browser - pretty much all I use at home. I think they even have a "sponsored" version for free these days. I have on rare occasion had it hang up during on-line shopping, but not very often.

I think you are more likely to be able to get it installed than to get the board to change back. [Razz]

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Mucus
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quote:
Originally posted by PsyLiam:
No. But 92% of people here do. I know it's not much comfort, but there does come a point where trying to remain backwardly compatible gets silly. Only 1.5% of all requests are coming from NS4, and there's a fair chance that that could just be you, Andrew.

Well, there are two edges to this.
One one hand, yes at home I have both IE 6 and Mozilla 1.1b, and swap back and forth with impunity based on mood. All heat powered by Athlon goodness [Wink]
And yes, the place looks great there.

But at school, which does still run on NS 4.somecrap, the place looks just like that....crap. People accessing from libraries, university, work, etc. may not actually have any choice as to which browser they have to use.

I just wonder if it would be possible to "dual boot" the UBB, have one link on solareclipse to some archaic barebones non-modified default UBB version, and another to the current version. The two versions could share content, but not features Considering that all the "content" is plain ascii text we type in, it should be workable.

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PsyLiam
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Hmm. It's a fair point. I wonder how much work it is...

Good grief though, is your school really still running NS4? What OS are they using? Windows 3.1? And are the computers steam powered?

Besides, if you are at school (or work) you should be working (or schooling). Not here. Not at all. No.

Apaprently, the place looks fine in NS3... [Smile]

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Yes, you're despicable, and... and picable... and... and you're definitely, definitely despicable. How a person can get so despicable in one lifetime is beyond me. It isn't as though I haven't met a lot of people. Goodness knows it isn't that. It isn't just that... it isn't... it's... it's despicable.

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on my Mac at work (dual 1gHz, OS X), the page doesn't load properly. there are text and image overlaps, and some images don't load properly. that is with whatever version of IE for Mac is current. i use opera 6.04 almost exclusively at home, and this page works perfectly on that.
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"And are the computers steam powered?"

MOVE!

I mean, really.

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capped
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My computer runs on a lawnmower engine! i need a gascan, but the fumes are all right man *passes out*
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actually, something did load properly in Opera. CaptianMike said something funky like caffiene in chocolate irritating his stomach lining and killing him, and it was all smushy and overlappy. i had to open up IE to read it. hmmm, problem.
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Why did you bother, is my question.
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Charles Capps
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NS4 is over five years old. It is no longer supported here, and soon everywhere else. Less than 2% of net users are still stuck with it. It's falling off everyone's radars... rightfully so.

If you can't use Opera (it's quite good), you can turn off CSS in NS4 as a workaround (Edit -> Prefs -> Advanced -> UNCHECK Enable Style Sheets). You'll find yourself needing to do this more and more as time goes on and sites no longer work in NS4.

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PsyLiam
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One suggestion about schools/libraries still using NS4. Tell them! Go to whoever is in charge, and say "Excuse me, but a couple of the sites I use for research/monkey looking/whatever keeps crashing in Netscape. It works fine on my computer at home with has Explorer, and my mate who has NS6 says it works on his, but it keeps crashing on the old, old version of netscape we have. Are they planning on upgrading the browser anytime soon?"

If enough people did it, they would change it. Probably.

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Yes, you're despicable, and... and picable... and... and you're definitely, definitely despicable. How a person can get so despicable in one lifetime is beyond me. It isn't as though I haven't met a lot of people. Goodness knows it isn't that. It isn't just that... it isn't... it's... it's despicable.

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MinutiaeMan
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I've had some of the similar problems as AndrewR, although it's not threatening my browser or anything. I use a program called OmniWeb 4.1, that's based on the Mozilla program. It's still an "under construction" browser, and so some of the Javascript features haven't been fully enabled. However, I've also had the problem where the upper left Flare logo overlaps some of the text in the top navigation bar.

Here's a screencap to show you what I mean: http://lobotomy.pleh.net/~flareupload/uploads/444/desktop-omniweb.gif

I did check the same page using Mozilla 1.0, and it rendered fine, so I know that it's a problem with Omniweb. However, the point remains that not everyone is going to be using perfectly cutting-edge technology, no matter how much programmers would want us all to.

And just to prove that Charles's new layout really IS a bit buggy (no offense, it looks fine when it renders properly! [Smile] ), I also tried to open Flare using Internet Explorer 5.1 for Mac OS X -- one of the most recent versions. (Windows may be up to version 6, but Macs are only to 5.2, but still have all the same features.) Anyway, the background renders fine, but all of the UBB tables are way off-center:

http://lobotomy.pleh.net/~flareupload/uploads/444/desktop-explorer.gif

Isn't programming fun? [Wink]

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