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"The Ultimate Computer" debuts: 8 March, 1968
2001: A Space Odyssey debuts: 3 April, 1968
Interesting.
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Yeah, but 2001 had been in development for about 4 years, and HAL had been a planned character for at least half that time. I doubt Kubrick nicked the idea, somehow.
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So what? Both SkyNet and the Matrix's A.I. came considerably after those two. And they were just as crazy. Maybe they were the clones-descendents of M-5 and HAL.
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There's really not a lot of doubt about that.
SkyNet and the Matrix were obviously based upon that basic premise... "self-aware-and-sentient-computer-with-a-personality-complex goes ballistic" has been rehashed a little too often.
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Trek marathons are a good way to introduce someone to TOS, or to get you out of the modern trek frame of mind - with the nice film and the great effects. I was watching The Ultimate Computer during this marathon - and had totally immersed myself in TOS... and well this episode was soooo good. That scene where Scotty's Engineer was so fucking "out of the blue"/"startling"! I couldn't believe it I was a little shocked! I was just going WTF! What a way to die - he just got disintigrated! GOOD episode. I noticed that prop that that Engineer was using - was used in "Trials and Tribblations" - well a replica I guess.
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I've always been curious why disintegration went out of vogue in Trek, whether it was goodie or baddie having their molecules scattered. I suspect Mrs. Berman runs a class in "Elementary Playing Dead" which all actors and extras are required to take. I get so sick of people gasping and lurching backwards as a phaser beam hits them, what I would have given to see, for example, some of the Klingons invading DS9 in "WotW" getting properly zapped. . .
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Vogon, did you see the Voyager blooper tape where Tuvok makes fun of the scene in which he is shot - in "The Voyager Conspiracy"? That was great.
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quote: I don't know if I'd call that shocking. Everybody got disintegrated back then.
Yes, but usually it was 'freeze' phaser fires disappear. PLUS I was watching a Trek Marathon so I was totally immersed in the TOSishness of it all. The difference of this 'disintegration' was that I don't know it didn't look as fake... he was innocently walking over to turn down the power or something and then boom! He's disintegrated - and it wasn't the 'glow-y phaser' type it - they added a pyrotechnique effect, which made it look more realistic I reckon - a 'firework' where the poor guy had just been standing. I don't know EXACTLY what made that bit work - but it was pretty good - and sorta not what you were expecting - maybe it was that the Engineering officer got a name. I was watching an episode last night - where that woman appears and disrupts all the cells in the victim's body by touching them - can't remember the name - but Scotty also sent another Engineering tech to his death ;o) And what was that funky new Jeffries tube? AND Why was Spock so fucking anally retentive in that episode - it was the WORST I've seen him. I'd love the quote where Scotty says he'll get the engines to work even if he has to get on top of them and nurse them, then Spock holds up his finger ads says:
can't remember EXACTLY what he says but it was bloody funny.
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Right now I get one ep a day on E4, and it's a great pleasure rediscovering how good Star Trek actually was. And I actually got to see the one you're on about, "That Which Survives." Spock was a little weird in this one; howeever, it seems recently I've seen every occasion when Spock has had command, and I'll say this: at least he and Scott were able to have a good working relationship! Most of the other times, he seemed to have McCoy there, openly questioning his authority and decisions in front of everyone, and all because he didn't agree with them or disapproved of Spock's style. I know the ship's CMO is outside the chain of command, but, hello? Gross insubordination?
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I gather you mean the "The Fucking Vulcan Neck Pinch"!?!
I liked the line(s) in "The Apple" where Kirk says to Spock, I wish you'd taught me that Neck Pinch now! and Spock replies "I have tried many times"! ;o)
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