Splitting from the sequels thread, I want to hear everyone's suggestions for the best and worst time travel stories they've ever seen, heard, or read. And why. They could be movies, episodes of a given series, books, comics, etc.
Go!
Mark
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
As much as I hate the rest of the dreck he vomits forth, I really love Dean Koontz's Lightning.
Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
I really liked the 2000 film "Frequency," which I think is underrated.
Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
Back to the Future wasn't all that good.
I didn't think much of Frequency either.
Timline was okay enough I bought the video well after reading the book.
The Final Count Down as pretty good.
That one with the black comic. I should remember at least his name, but it is evading me right now. It was interesting.
That Bruce Campbell movie, like his others, were at the lower end of so-so.
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
Terminator, while bad, did have a good premise. Terminator 2 was much better, though it takes some convolution to make the time travel make sense after the first one. Primer was excellent. And just in case anyone is interested:
"The Visitor" Deep Space Nine "Visionary" Deep Space Nine "Trials and Tribblations" Deep Space Nine (not really for the time travel twist - but it was done for the best of reasons and was fun).
Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
I remember a time travel story where someone goes back in time and kills Hitler which somehow changed enough events to allow the Germans to win WW1 and take it out on the Frenchies which led to an embittered youth named Charles DeGualle to become a ruthless dictator and commit genocide while starting WW2.
Ken Chalker wrote "Downtiming the Nightside" which had some pretty twisted premises.
Posted by HerbShrump (Member # 1230) on :
Final Countdown, IMHO, had no plot. It was simply "Hey, there's a storm. It pulled us back to Pearl Harbor 1941! Wow, there's that storm again. Hey, we're back home."
I liked the Back to the Future stories. Especially part 2. I think it worked well within its own continuity. The Bill and Ted movies were like that as well.
As far as books.... Poul Anderson wrote The Time Patrol series. I really liked that. It dealt with various time cops protecting the timeline from people changing events. Had quite a bit of history in it.
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
Yeah, Final Countdown existed solely to have a Nimitz-class aircraft carrier contemplate taking on the entire Japanese navy. It would have been better if that had actually occured in the movie. Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Here's a good time-travel story.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
I recall a hread here wherein some poster said their uncle won atime machine off ebay and I said something witty and then there was this dead hooker...
Cant find the thread though. Mabye someone went back in time and prevented me from posting in the thread, the, because....er...I was shielded from changes to the timeline by the uique anti-entropic chemicals in my blood, I'm the only one that remembers it.
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
Babylon 5 had a good time travel element to it.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
No. Anything with that talking monkey Zathros was shit.
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
Flight of the Navigator was totally awesome. Not that I'd really consider it a time-travel film though.
Posted by tricky (Member # 1402) on :
Zathros has had difficult life, and likely Zathros will have difficult death, but at least there is symmetry. No-one care for Zathros...
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
quote:Originally posted by Veers: I really liked the 2000 film "Frequency," which I think is underrated.
Same here. What made it good though was the performances of the two male leads, Dennis Quaid (always underrated it seams) and James Caviezel.
quote:Originally posted by Omega: Terminator, while bad, did have a good premise. Terminator 2 was much better, though it takes some convolution to make the time travel make sense after the first one. Primer was excellent. And just in case anyone is interested:
quote:Originally posted by Ritten: Back to the Future wasn't all that good.
More blasphemy! Back to the Future was a CLASSIC. If nothing else than for Lloyd's reaction when the flaming wind up car hits the pile of oily rags. Funniest gasp ever.
quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: No. Anything with that talking monkey Zathros was shit.
Poor Zathrus. But don't worry, Zathrus dose not mind. Zathrus used to everyone walking on him.
quote:Originally posted by Lee: Flight of the Navigator was totally awesome. Not that I'd really consider it a time-travel film though.
Another 80's classic from my childhood. It taught me what a twinkie was without ever having seen one.
I'm not sure it qualifies as time travel in the strictest sense, but I though Butterfly Effect was rather good. More so if you get the version with the darker ending (I shan't spoil for those who don't know.)
Twelve Monkeys was, like Time Bandits, the kind of time travel movie only a former Python could make and get away with it. In both instances, you're not sure if anything in the film is real, or the product of the main character's imagination.
It's not a film (yet) but I quite enjoyed "The Time Traveller�s Wife" as a unique look at time travel as a medical affliction and the effect it would have on the traveller's lifestyle.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
While many hate it, I rather liked the last version of Wells' The Time Machine. Again, it's not really anything like the book except for broad strokes, but it's still above adverage....and the model of the new time machine is a fucking work of art.
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
Damn you Reverend. I read through this whole thing, waiting patiently to say "The Butterfly Effect" rocked. And you beat me to it.
"The Butterfly Effect" Rocked.
The new "Time Machine" was a movie I wanted to like alot, but couldn't because, well, it sucked. I loved the time machine itself, and I dug the part where he goes forward right before the moon blows up. I thought that was cool. And the world changing effects were always awesome.
But my problems with it are these:
1) The moronic video librarian. 2) The fact that the moronic video librarian still works after thousands of years. 3) The moronic video librarian mentions the book that the movie is based on. You can't do that and expect us to take the continuity of the story seriously. 4) The ending doesn't make any sense. While creepy, Jeremy Irons doesn't really serve any purpose. 5) The main character tries to save his fiance a couple of times, then quickly gives up on the basis that it can't be done and goes in search of an answer to why, which is never really answered. Then he decides to stay in the future with ChainMailJigglyBoobs (I would too).
Posted by tricky (Member # 1402) on :
Ever read Stephen Baxter's the time ships, a folow up to the time machine? Depressing as usual for Stephen, but as good as ever.
Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
"Primer was excellent."
Huh? I couldn't figure out what the hell was going on!
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
Zathras.
And, although it wasn't very good, I quite enjoyed the miniseries The Triangle (shown last December in the States) which aired here last weekend. Even if they did try to tie it all in to the Philadelphia Experiment.
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
While it's not technically a time travel story, I'd nominate the "Lost in Space" movie for one of the worst uses of time travel elements.
I liked the casting, I liked the production design, I liked the special effects, for the most part... but the parts that dealt with time manipulation were just really poorly written.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
To me the H.G.Wells novel is the best time travel stories. The most recent movie was crap, however the time machine did look nice as Jason pointed out. The Time Ships was also good but had alot in it to consider so I have to reread it again some day.
Also the Twilight Zone had some really good time travel stories.
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
I liked everything about Lost In Space until the time bubble showed up. Then the movie stopped making sense and started making me throw up.
Hey, anyone remember "Freejack"? Emilio Estevez is a racer that gets sucked a few years into the future where he's supposed to be a new body for someone? Not strictly about time travel, but yeah - it sucked.
Mark
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
I remember Freejack, yah. I think I watched it in college. Basically, in the future, it becomes standard practice for the dying rich to pull people out of the past at the moment of their death, so the past doesn't miss them, but they get a brand new body for themselves. Emilio escapes and has adventures.
Ooh... what about Timecop? Not completely awful, I guess. Jean Claude does some pretty cool moves as well as Mia Sara... drool. But what happens to the pod when they go back? And how do they end up back in it when they return?
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
Is anyone familiar with Robert Heinlein's "�All You Zombies�"? I read it for my "Time Travel and Metaphysics" class a couple of years ago. Very bizarre, but highly recommended.
(This class was the same one where we watched Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure as course material. Now there's another great time travel story.)
Edit: Damn UBB can't handle character entities in a URL! Take the first article on the disambiguation page linked above.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
quote:Originally posted by Aban Rune: Damn you Reverend. I read through this whole thing, waiting patiently to say "The Butterfly Effect" rocked. And you beat me to it.
"The Butterfly Effect" Rocked.
The new "Time Machine" was a movie I wanted to like alot, but couldn't because, well, it sucked. I loved the time machine itself, and I dug the part where he goes forward right before the moon blows up. I thought that was cool. And the world changing effects were always awesome.
But my problems with it are these:
1) The moronic video librarian. 2) The fact that the moronic video librarian still works after thousands of years. 3) The moronic video librarian mentions the book that the movie is based on. You can't do that and expect us to take the continuity of the story seriously. 4) The ending doesn't make any sense. While creepy, Jeremy Irons doesn't really serve any purpose. 5) The main character tries to save his fiance a couple of times, then quickly gives up on the basis that it can't be done and goes in search of an answer to why, which is never really answered. Then he decides to stay in the future with ChainMailJigglyBoobs (I would too).
Okay, really valid points on 1,2 and 3- Orlando Jones should not have been in that movie and the happy ending bit sorta blows- no attempt to undo the world's devestation?!?
I really liked Irons in his role- he knows what's going on and knows why the Traveller cant save his fiance' (causality).You really get the feeling that Irons' character is starved to talk with someone of the traveller's mental capacity (all his morlocks are morons) and wants him to stay. A very cool notion that the Morlocks have "hives".
I really liked that the Traveller could not save his woman- it's not clear how many times he tries, but after seeing the woman you love get killed over and over, it's no wonder he stopped going back.
hmmm...upon reflection, it's mostly the first half of the movie that's cool- the Eloi are waaaay to self sufficent for the Morlock/Eloi symbiosis to work like it does in the book.
Posted by Grokca (Member # 722) on :
Time Bandits, anything with midgets eating rats is good.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Mmm..."All You Zombies"...
OK, Millennium. Not Lance Henriksen, but Kris Kristofferson & Cheryl Ladd. For those unfamiliar, the IMDb summary: "An investigator seeking the cause of an airline disaster discovers the involvement of an organisation of time travellers from a future Earth irreparably polluted who seek to rejuvenate the human race from those about to die in the past. Based on a novel by John Varley."
Not ENTIRELY time travel, but has a plot set in motion by it: Making History by Stephen Fry, sent to me in the klink by MagiC (lovely lass) & I love it so.
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
Hmmm... I think I actually understand the order of events in Zombies from the Wiki entry. I may just have to see if I can find that, though... sounds pretty good.
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
quote:Originally posted by Aban Rune: Hmmm... I think I actually understand the order of events in Zombies from the Wiki entry. I may just have to see if I can find that, though... sounds pretty good.
Yeah, me too. Sounds almost like something Phillip K Dick would write.
I'm on a bit of a Heinlein roll at the moment. I just re-read Starship Troopers, Citizen of the Galaxy (my favourite of his so far) and am about half way through Puppet Masters.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
I forgot that "--All You Zombies--" had my mom's birthday as one of the dates.
Heinlein & time travel? Time Enough For Love onwards. Awesome. Also, "For Us, The Living.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Why bother reading Heinlein when his movies are so accurate to the novels?
..er....as "accurate" as Stephen King's anyhow.
(snicker!) Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
I thought that First Contact and The Voyage Home were also two good Time-travel movies.
Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
Has anyone read Timeline by Michael Crichton? The book, like all of MC's work is pure gold. However the movie adaptaion kind of left me feeling dissapointed.
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on :
The only thing I don't like about Back to the Future 3 is why didn't they simply go to the cave where Doc Brown hid his DeLorean and grab what they needed to patch up the DeLorean Marty used? Then in 1955 when Marty and Doc found the cave DeLorean they could easily replace those parts which would still Marty to use it to go back to 1885.
In BttF 2 they establish that when a person encounters their past/future counterpart something bad can happen. Only doesn't when 2015 and 1955 Biff meet. Might be due to the fact the DeLorean exists in four different places at the same time. First when Marty uses it, then again when future Biff uses it, again when Marty and Doc try to undo future Biff's actions, and the one in cave.
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
Well, what they needed was gasoline, and you don't want to leave gasoline in a car for seventy years. Ruins the engine, I think. Doc had to have drained it before burying the car. Probably used the gasoline somewhere else by then.
Posted by Zefram (Member # 1568) on :
quote:Has anyone read Timeline by Michael Crichton? The book, like all of MC's work is pure gold.
I had problems with the "shrinking" aspect of the time travel process, especially the descriptions of what the heroes saw during the procedure. You simply won't see anything if your eyes are smaller than the wavelength of visible light. Additionally, just like in Prey, Crichton gave away the "surprise" villain less than halfway through the book. The author must not think too highly of our deductive skills when he gives so many clues throughout the story.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
quote:Da_bang80 made me chortle insanely by actually beliveing that: The book, like all of MC's work is pure gold.
AHA!! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! HAHAHAHAHA! HAHAHA!! Ha...heeheeheeheeheehee...heehee...uh..hee....*cough* Mm. Yeah. Sorry.
Michael Crichton has not produced anything worthwhile in about 20 years. I dropped him after reading Disclosure & hurling the book across the room in a fit of lackluster disgusted rage. One of my fondest, proudest memories is the fact that I was able to tell him off in person while at work 5� years ago using a "premature ejaculation' metaphor. Or maybe it was a simile. Perhaps a simile.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
quote:Originally posted by MinutiaeMan: Is anyone familiar with Robert Heinlein's "�All You Zombies�"? I read it for my "Time Travel and Metaphysics" class a couple of years ago. Very bizarre, but highly recommended.
(This class was the same one where we watched Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure as course material. Now there's another great time travel story.)
Edit: Damn UBB can't handle character entities in a URL! Take the first article on the disambiguation page linked above.
Hmm interesting story but why wouldn't a person recognize their younger self even if they were of a different sex. Oh well guess I'll have to read the story. By the way does anyone know of a current magazine that publishes sci-fi like magazines in the 50's and 60's.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Amazing what one finds when one searches for science fiction magazines. Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Thank you shik
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
(Or, you know, goes to the bookstore.)
Bones of the Earth by Michael Swanwick is a good novel which I've recommended here before.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Speaking of Back to the Future... it's 9 years till 2015... where is my hover-board!?! Where is my self-drying jacket!?! Where are my flying cars? and Is anyone going to open a Cafe Eighties. Oh and dust-jackets for books have to fall by the wayside!
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on :
It's times like this it occurs to me that we were lied to by The Jetsons. According to that show we were suppose to be tooling around in flying cars by now. You see any flying cars lately? That's the problem with TV, it always lies to us.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
You have to watch "Harvey Birdman: Attournet At Law" and what ACTUALLY happened to the Jetsons - classic!
Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
I've seen Hervey Birdman. Funny show.
The Jurassic Park Books/Movies are sort of like time travel. Not in the sense that you step into a machine and get zapped to the past. But more like they brought the past to the present.
Also, that one Star Trek movie where they go back in time to save the whales. I can't remember which one, I think it was the fourth one. That was a funny movie.
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
quote:Originally posted by Hobbes: It's times like this it occurs to me that we were lied to by The Jetsons. According to that show we were suppose to be tooling around in flying cars by now. You see any flying cars lately? That's the problem with TV, it always lies to us.
I think they are actually working on the flying car. Of course making one that works is one thing, making one safe and affordable is something else alltogether. Imagine the traffic problems they'd cause though, what happens when some idiot though he could make it to work with only five quid in the tank? Messy.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
We'll never have flying cars- so many assholes cant drive on roads already -with their cell phones and GPS and general stupidity- that given the whole sky to crash around in is a horrid idea.
Here in South Florida, we had a woman crash her SUV into six cars (SIX!) while on her phone. She lost control of her SUV after hitting the first car and never thought to put down the phone to, you know, regain control of her vehicle. Bitch did not even lose her liscence.
(steps off soapbox)
Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
Hobbes, think LCAC.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
As one reviewer said about that ad spot, "The flying-cars spot, for instance, plays to the viewer's weariness of dumbass prognostication. That seems like a reasonable instinct: Pie-in-the-sky predictions of the sort that used to be limited to the World's Fair are now pretty much inescapable, so a small dose of actual skepticism seems like an interesting gambit. But it's a very small dose, because it turns out that the only reason we don't have flying cars is that the Internet is actually better than flying cars. There are still no limits to what technology can accomplish. So, I guess those suckers stuck in traffic on the bridge just haven't yet taken full advantage of IBM software. Or something."
Tales of Future Past is a neat little site that collects all those funny prognostications for our comedic review.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Funny I remember that commercial. I used to raise my hand up in the air whenever I saw it and say,"Damn Right". I guess that the reason why is that when it comes down too it flying cars are impracting for the reasons stated above. We wish for things like flying cars and transporters because they seem ideal in a particular situation we may be in, yet we fail to realize that if released to the public, they may do little to improve quality of life and may in fact make it worse. So the question really is not what we can do with technology, but why do it at all?
Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
quote:Originally posted by Hobbes: It's times like this it occurs to me that we were lied to by The Jetsons. According to that show we were suppose to be tooling around in flying cars by now. You see any flying cars lately? That's the problem with TV, it always lies to us.
Yeah, Notice that there are no ethnic groups in either the Flinstones or the Jetsons? What type of message is THAT?
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
When we successfully manipulate gravity - THEN we'll have flying cars.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
The message is that Hanna-Barbera hates spics, niggers, Kikes, fags, chinks, gooks, wetbacks, micks, Commies, dykes, towelheads, Nips, wogs, injuns, Krauts, & pineapples. Oh, AND the damn dirty Belgians. All have been removed from the gloriously Caucasian world.
Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
I think you missed a few, but hanna-barbera didn't.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
"The message is that Hanna-Barbera hates spics, niggers, Kikes, fags, chinks, gooks, wetbacks, micks, Commies, dykes, towelheads, Nips, wogs, injuns, Krauts, & pineapples. Oh, AND the damn dirty Belgians. All have been removed from the gloriously Caucasian world."
I hate to tell you this, but three of those are caucasian, and three aren't even race- or nation-based.
Also : "pineapple"? I can only assume the implication is "Polynesian", and state that that must be the least original attempt at a racial slur of all time.
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
quote:Originally posted by Hobbes: In BttF 2 they establish that when a person encounters their past/future counterpart something bad can happen. Only doesn't when 2015 and 1955 Biff meet.
The reason something bad happened to the Jennifers (unconvincingly portrayed by Elizabeth Shue) is because neither one was aware of what was going on, I think. The problem came when the two versions of Jennifer recognized they were the same person without understanding it. Old Biff new he was talking to his past self, and Young Biff was too stupid to see the resemblance. I always thought that was the implication, since they made such a big deal of it earlier.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
quote:Originally posted by Shik: The message is that Hanna-Barbera hates spics, niggers, Kikes, fags, chinks, gooks, wetbacks, micks, Commies, dykes, towelheads, Nips, wogs, injuns, Krauts, & pineapples. Oh, AND the damn dirty Belgians. All have been removed from the gloriously Caucasian world.
Or possibly the whites in Jetsons/Flinstone land killed off all the other races with their clublike or super-pointy noses.
Or mabye the other races in Jetsons just live on the fucking ground. Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Say, there's a thought. "The Jetsons" as a study in class-based oppression. I like that.
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
quote:The reason something bad happened to the Jennifers (unconvincingly portrayed by Elizabeth Shue) is because neither one was aware of what was going on, I think. The problem came when the two versions of Jennifer recognized they were the same person without understanding it.
Yeah, and especially when they passed out. If young Jennifer had hit her head and died, you've got your universe destruction right there. Same thing would have happened if young Biff had hit that manure truck differently the second time and gotten killed.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
quote:Originally posted by TSN: Say, there's a thought. "The Jetsons" as a study in class-based oppression. I like that.
Yes, but oppression by whom. The ground might be the place to be and not shunned in some stratospheric isolated building.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Remember your "Cloud Minders,' good sir! Obviously Cogswell & Spacely got their cogs & sprockets from SOMEwhere, & since those sky buildings seemed to be primarily "office space"....well. You draw your own conclusions.
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
I draw plenty. Things may SEEM all fancy-free for the Jetsons, but imagine the veritable rain of falling bodies from the sky due to the complete lack of ANY visible safety equipment on the walkways, flying cars, windows, freaking DOGWALKS, and other common household items. Just imagine the blood-soaked wasteland down beneath those crowds.
Eep, op, ork, ah-ah, folks.
Mark
Posted by Peregrinus (Member # 504) on :
The problem with most time-travel stories is that they don't work. Time travel itself is not a dramatic storytelling device.
There are two leading theories on how time travel might work.
One is the steady-state hypothesis, where, say, you go back in time and anything you might try to do creates the conditions that led up to your departure and nothing is changed because your changes are already history.
The other is the multiverse hypothesis, in which every decision gate faced by elementary particles in the universe play out simultaneously from the Big Bang, each splitting of two new universes where each result plays out. So if you go back in time, the universe will carry on without you, but the instant you arrive in the past, you alter the quantum state of the universe and a new reality is split off that is now diverging from the one you left. You can fiddle to your heart's content, and it won't matter a jot to the present you left.
So Back to the Future wouldn't work. Star Trek uses both models, and badly, throughout the entire multi-series arc. On the one hand, you have "City on the Edge of Forever". On the other, you have "Mirror, Mirror". And don't get me started on Star Trek IV. The best-done time travel story I've seen on screen was TNG's "Time's Arrow", where the time travel was incidental, and the drama made use of it (Samuel Clemens on the Enterprise -- loved it), but didn't revolve around the mechanism itself, as it did in, say, "City...".
The absolute best time travel story I've ever run across, period, is Spider Robinson's "All You Zombies", where -- thanks to time travel (and a sex-change operation) -- the main character is his own mother and father, as well as the bartender at the place he's drinking, and, for that matter, every other person in the story. It's great.
--Jonah
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
"The absolute best time travel story I've ever run across, period, is Spider Robinson's 'All You Zombies'..."
1. Already mentioned. 2. Robert Heinlein.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mark Nguyen: I draw plenty. Things may SEEM all fancy-free for the Jetsons, but imagine the veritable rain of falling bodies from the sky due to the complete lack of ANY visible safety equipment on the walkways, flying cars, windows, freaking DOGWALKS, and other common household items. Just imagine the blood-soaked wasteland down beneath those crowds.
Eep, op, ork, ah-ah, folks.
Mark
I wonder why nobody from the Jetsons inhabited the ground anymore. I theorize that years of pollution and nuclear fallout has left the Earth uninhabitable save for the skies and so mankind has taken to live in high rise buildings that reach high into the stratosphere.
Eep, op, ork, ah-ah indeed.
Posted by Peregrinus (Member # 504) on :
1. I must have missed the post that said we weren't allowed to mention our favourite if it had already been posted.
2. So fucking sorry. All my books have been in storage for over two years now, and I read that back when I was reading a lot from both authors.
--Jonah
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Apology fucking accepted.
Wasn't there an episode of "The Jetsons" where it started raining, so someone pushed a button, and the building rose even higher until it was above the rain clouds? I always figured that was the reason they were up in the air.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
That was Harvey Birdman Tim... again I will bring up this hilarious show. The BEST of them all is the episodes where the Jetsons come back in time to sue Earth of the past for causing the pollution of the future. I nearly fell apart laughing so hard when the Jetsons tried to walk to Harvey's desk (but there was no moving walk way). HAHEHEAHEH! You have to see it... anyway you can...
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
I didn't know that it only ran for one year from '62 to '63 and then 2 more seasons in the '80s.
I thought to myself - it's a wonder they haven't made a live action movie yet - but check the page out - they are.
Oh and there is this little tid-bit from the trivia section:
"George's second cousin Phil Richbourg grew up beneath the smog and pollution on Earth's surface."
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
quote:Originally posted by Peregrinus: So Back to the Future wouldn't work.
Actually, I thought BTTF was suprisingly consistent, if you look at it as a single timeline, but changes in the past take time to ripple forward. This even (mostly) explains why they went from 2015 to the Biff-owned 1985. They left 2015 before the ripple reached far enough forward, but it had already gotten to 1985. I'm not saying this theory is absolutely perfect for BTTF, but it's the most consistent IMO.
B.J.
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
quote:Originally posted by Peregrinus: On the other, you have "Mirror, Mirror"...
I know this issue has been discussed before, but the Mirror Universe is NOT just a quantum variation of our own time line. There is simply no way that things would end up so differently, but still contain all the same players. The MU has to be a fundamentally different reality with no common point in time with our own universe.
Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
In the begining there was a great void.......
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
quote:if you look at it as a single timeline, but changes in the past take time to ripple forward.
Time?
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
The Velocity of Heartbreak.
Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
Is variable depending on the direction of the wind, alignment of the constellations, and time of the month.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Okay, I just have to say his: back to the Future and all it's sequels suck.
I've attempted to sit through the first one and found it unwatchable.
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