Placeholder. Couldn't resist. Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
Bah. And here I was in the midddle of my preview, intent on "tecH pagh tecHbe'" in light of all the Klingon tech we'll be getting tonight, plus the fate of our happy family of Augments. Bleh. Just for that, I'm skipping over some of the fun stuff.
-New Klingon ship-ish. The preview makes it look like the Raptor we've seen before, but bigger and somewhat inverted.
-More fightin' with the BoP! Look for unorthodox maneuvers and lots of Khan-esque pontificating.
-On that subject, we'll get some Khan namedropping plus some background on what people in this era know of our missing genetic supermen
-And at the end, a cheesy but fitting link to Soong's family future.
Mark
Posted by Wes (Member # 212) on :
Placeholders are lame.
Posted by Krenim (Member # 22) on :
- The Briar Patch and Klach D'Kel Brakt are apparantly the same place.
- The existance of the Botany Bay is apparantly just legend in the 22nd Century. Malik brings this up when stating Khan's big mistake was running.
- The final scene onboard the Augment's BoP was so obviously an homage to one of the final scenes onboard the Reliant from Star Trek II.
- The first inklings of what would someday lead to the creation of Data... Creepy. Yeah, we all know how the Soong family's cybernetic research winds up, but Arik's matter-of-fact statement that humanity cannot be perfected and thus artifical life is the way to go... Creepy.
Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
- Reed suggests modifying the warp signature to match a Bird-of-Prey. Later, Tucker says they now resemble a 'battlecruiser'
- Klach D'kel Brakt is the Briar Patch, a nebula resulting from a number of supernovae.
- The map of the Klingon border was consistent with the usual Star Charts/ST Dimension way of things. Except.. I wonder what the label for the blue area said. It can't be the Federation, and it looks far too big to belong to an Earth with only a dozen capable starships.
- The Augments still had the Denubulan woman from the shuttle aboard.
- The Klingon Chancellor is called Marek. Or something similar.
- A Klingon escape pod. I forgot who said what regarding those, but we see one here.
- "Superior ability breeds superior ambition". Wasn't that a line from "Space Seed"?
- That was not a new Klingon ship. It's the D-5. And the NX-01 is no match for it, apparently.
- So, we basically saw the conception of Data and his siblings in the last few minutes. Who would have thought that Kahn and Data had something in common.
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
I was somewhat surprised that Enterprise outgunned a bird of prey so badly. But okay. My remaining question is... when does the guy who's in jail for the rest of his life have kids?
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
[Was out late last night. Sorry guys - priorities ]
-Timestamp - May 27, 2154 at the end of the episode.
-Y'know, Archer's new chair really looks like a COMMAND CHAIR. It looks like something that will protect him, and that gives him a commanding presence on the set. Unlike the old one, which reminded me of an ofice desk chair with a PDA on the side (granted with a spiffy popup display and a minor foldout feature that was never used). Depsite beign from "Nemesis", I really think it fits. Now, if only they could replace the other chairs on the bridge with seats that don't look so damned flimsy...
-I've got a feeling that the show went long in the second episode, and the "actual" cliffhanger of Archer having less than a minute would have been the true ending. Lucas and the C-12 crew aren't seen after that. It's a minor gaffe, and as a result Riele had to be credited and paid for one line in this episode.
-Speaking of one liners, who was the cute blonde at Engineering station on the bridge in the final battle? Her one line could have been said by anyone else on the bridge. I'm thinking it has something to do with the above point.
-Ahh, okay. It's amazing how rusty I am after a year without Klingons. So, we're talking the D-5 we saw Duras use in "Judgement", and a tanker variant of which we see in "Marauders".
-Looks like then the Klingon fleet of this era will be mostly D5s and BoPs. The Raptor ships seem to have vanished altogether, we won't count the "horseshoe" transport, or the K'tinga either.
-Nice continuity, jettisoning the Denobulan pilot and her ship to escape!Was wondering what happened to her. Anyway, I'm also enjoying how real-life new scientific data gathered from the Galileo and Cassini probes is being used in the show. A decade ago, we wouldn't hear about gas giants having thermal or cyclohexene layers like this. Smart.
-Enterprise outguns a BoP three to one? Good thing Duras had three when we last saw him... Still, this episode the wing disruptors mysteriously switch to beams instead of pulses. And we learn the bridge is protected by "dispersive armor" that is invulnerable to phase cannon fire, though that could have just been Soong lying to keep Archer from firing on his kids.
-Enterprise has not displayed any of the new weaponry described of the Columbia - not too much of a surprise, and they do finish this show back on Earth. Being upgraded for a fight later this season (as the upcoming Vulcan arc doesn't seem to involve much ship-to-ship combat) can easily happen offscreen at any point now.
-Trip's parents have moved to Mississippi from Panama City, FL. Panama City is nowhere near where the Xindi weapon made its attack down the panhandle. While the attack most certainly screwed up normal life for everyone in the Southwest, Trip's parent's place was okay. They wanted a new beginning, perhaps?
-The UT has been updated with seven Klingon dialects - looks like Hoshi is having less to do already. I wonder though if whatever the Klingon guy on the other end was hearing was a properly-accented Klingonese - Archer isn't nearly as gruff or growly as Klingons tend to be. And as always, "Qapla'" was not translated.
-Neato effect of the show - as Soong escapes in the pod, the BoP looks to jump to warp when ALREADY at warp. Then the starstreaks collapse to points and the pod is at sublight. Cool!
-I'm wondering what the reasoning is behind soundproofing the brig... No other series has done this, and prisoners have often used this advantage to talk / hypnotize / whatever their way out of their cell. And to say nothing of the advantages of having a friggin' ACTUAL PHYSICAL BARRIER locking you in! This Enterprise has the most secure brig ever!
-Speaking of cool retro tech - I'd like to see any other ship be able to disable a target with a tractor beam, like Enterprise did with the grappler!
-T'Pol changes her outfits, yet maintains her pips and patch. I'm sure whatever regulation that governs this sort of thing will survive at least a couple centuries so Seven can use it too.
-Y'know, despite having having four (or five) tubes to fire torpedoes in the forward arc, I don't think we ever see her fire photonics from more than one tube at any one time. Here, it's three torps from tube 3 (counting from port and not including the once-seen centerline tube). I'malmost certain we only see them firing from tube 2 and 3 these days - perhaps they're using photonics from only certain tubes now? And the spatial torpedo props are kept around in the Armory because they're probe casings or something?
-CC tidbit - when Archer kills Malik, the closed-captioning reads that we hear a "plasma rifle blast". Could it be that TPTB still consider the MACO weapons to be plasma-based? Plasma, with a stun setting of some sort, accounting for the white pulses instead of the original red? Hm..!
-And there's nothing said that Soong didn't already have kids... Or he'll get out and about at some point later. He's apparently not in prison because of murder, so perhaps he'll be pardonned some day?
Mark
[ November 13, 2004, 10:37 AM: Message edited by: Mark Nguyen ]
Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :
quote:Originally posted by Omega: I was somewhat surprised that Enterprise outgunned a bird of prey so badly. But okay. My remaining question is... when does the guy who's in jail for the rest of his life have kids?
Maybe he already has a kid or maybe he's parolled later in life and is able to have a kid, or maybe he adopted and Noonian Soong is not a biological descendant. (Of course, it would still be very odd that Noonian Soong would like very much like Arik if Noonian was descended from an adopted kid)
Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
Or maybe he has a brother.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Was it just me, or did the scene at the end where Malik suddenly shows up on Enterprise seem very poorly thought-out and completely unnecessary?
Also, I refuse to believe that those grappling ropes are stronger than the hull of a ship.
Posted by Futurama Guy (Member # 968) on :
Anyone catch the name of the Klingon colony that was about to be attacked?
Also, there was some continuity with regards to the BoPs having minimal aft shielding, as mentioned in "The Expanse".
As for the Malik scene - it was unexpected, but then again, he didn't seem like one to give up so easily. I would imagine all of those extra buttons he was pushing while Soong was talking to him was for the transporter...I was sort of wondering what he was doing there.
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
quote:Originally posted by Dat:
quote:Originally posted by Omega: I was somewhat surprised that Enterprise outgunned a bird of prey so badly. But okay. My remaining question is... when does the guy who's in jail for the rest of his life have kids?
Maybe he already has a kid or maybe he's parolled later in life and is able to have a kid, or maybe he adopted and Noonian Soong is not a biological descendant. (Of course, it would still be very odd that Noonian Soong would like very much like Arik if Noonian was descended from an adopted kid)
Two words: "conjugal visits." Posted by David Templar (Member # 580) on :
quote:Originally posted by MinutiaeMan: Two words: "conjugal visits."
Two more words: "co-ed prison".
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
I loved the shot of the NX-01 firing torps at the BoP while both were still at warp. Bit dubious about the "outgunned three to one" statement given the BoP seemed superior in every battle in the first two parts. But overall it's good to see the hero ship is capable of kicking ass once in a while.
Nice expressions after Archer bluffs the Klingons. Archer is all "did I just do that?!" and Reed is all "Did he just do that?!"
Further proof that my MACO page was a really bad idea: as soon as I saw that the MACO guarding Soong at the end was played by one of the stuntmen and not one of the background extra MACOs, I knew something was going to happen.
And then someone drops from the ceiling - I almost expected it to be Silik back from the dead and wanting Soong to provide all the genetic modifications they'd previously gotten from Future Guy. 8)
That hole in Malik's chest was totally cheesy as an effect. While it's good to see that phasers can cause damage once in a while, I don't believe a trio of pulse bursts would have left that damage pattern. And shouldn't something have gone all the way through and hit Soong?
quote:Originally posted by Lee: Is it too much to hope for that for once we see someone get the death they deserve? Like Malik or whatever his name is, dying in slow agony? No, what'll happen is he'll probably get shot or stabbed by Persis when he does one thing too outrageous even for her, like decide to kill Soong. He'll then just keel over with a pouty hurt look on his face, I can see it now. . .
OK, bad call on the Persis thing - although she did stab him! - but still. . . Posted by Woodside Kid (Member # 699) on :
quote: Originally posted by Mark Nguyen: Speaking of one liners, who was the cute blonde at Engineering station on the bridge in the final battle? Her one line could have been said by anyone else on the bridge. I'm thinking it has something to do with the above point.
That's Dayna Devon, host of the syndicated entertainment show Extra.
Posted by Futurama Guy (Member # 968) on :
quote:Originally posted by Woodside Kid: That's Dayna Devon, host of the syndicated entertainment show Extra.
The one and only Dayna Devon?!
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
No, the other one.
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
There are two Dayna Devons?! My cup runneth over.
Posted by Futurama Guy (Member # 968) on :
Hey, didn't they mention the whole Botany Bay myth as being 150 years ago, in so much as to tease the 1996 theory?? I'm sure some sort of general time reference was given.
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
They said 150 years, and it's revealed at the end that the episode date is May 2154. So Khan just left. 8)
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
Sure, and The Federation fleet in "Sacrifice of Angels" is EXACTLY 617 ships strong, since Bashir said "They outnumber us two to one".
Leeway, folks, leeway!
Mark
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
I was being facetious.
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
quote:Originally posted by TSN: Also, I refuse to believe that those grappling ropes are stronger than the hull of a ship.
If they're made of buckyballs, then they probably are much stronger than the hull. When referring to 'losing the grapplers' they were probably referring to the mounts on the ship.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Well, yes, but that's what I mean. Something about the grapplers should have given way long before the whole front half of the nacelle tore apart.
"There are two Dayna Devons?! My cup runneth over."
Before this thread, I didn't even know there was one. I, too, was being facetious.
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
Not buckyballs. Carbon nanotube monofilament lines. But you've got the idea. Those lines would have been made to take a lot of tension load. Even if the mounts were weaker than the lines, they're still designed for tension load. Now, the side of the D5 nacelle was probably not designed for load in that direction. The strongest structure in the world will fail if you apply a load in a way it wasn't designed for.
In any case, that was an extremely cool scene! I liked how they showed the D5's lower turret trying to get a lock on the Enterprise, and couldn't because they'd shoot their own nacelle off. I can just imagine the Klingons in that ship yelling "What the @#$%?" when they suddenly start getting their ship's parts yanked off.
Also, it was cool to see them "flying her to pieces" once more. Whole lotta shakin' goin' on.
B.J.
Posted by Kazeite (Member # 970) on :
But no fire bursting out of weird places in Engineering Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
And you think my saying "There are two Dayna Devons?! My cup runneth over" was being deadly serious?
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
quote:Originally posted by Harry: - The map of the Klingon border was consistent with the usual Star Charts/ST Dimension way of things. Except.. I wonder what the label for the blue area said. It can't be the Federation, and it looks far too big to belong to an Earth with only a dozen capable starships.
And the fact that no source I am aware of has ever given the Orions and Klingons a shared border. According to some episodes, don't they also share one with the Cardassians? Add to that the Romulans and it's getting pretty crowded over there.
quote:- The Augments still had the Denubulan woman from the shuttle aboard.
Yes, but I'm wondering how exactly this works. When they left C-12 aboard the shuttle the Enterprise scanned them and reported that there were "Augments and one human aboard...Soong." So where was the Denobulan chick? They had brought her to the station (unconscious) with them aboard the shuttle, but we were led to believe by that line that they had left her there. Continuity gaffe! I also don't much care for the fact that in all three of these episodes T'Pol changes catsuits between scenes in which she would seem to have no time or apparent reason to do so.
quote:- The Klingon Chancellor is called Marek. Or something similar.
M'Rek, according to the closed-captioning.
quote:- A Klingon escape pod. I forgot who said what regarding those, but we see one here.
Well, at some point somebody *did* say that Klingons didn't believe in them, but Worf was found in one in "Penumbra" (DS9) and Archer used one in "Bounty" (ENT).
quote:- "Superior ability breeds superior ambition". Wasn't that a line from "Space Seed"?
Yep. According to this episode it was said by one of the Augments' creators, who was later murdered by one of them.
quote:- So, we basically saw the conception of Data and his siblings in the last few minutes. Who would have thought that Kahn and Data had something in common.
Yeah, this was a little too "cute" but fun nonetheless. By a pleasant coincidence, these episodes offer an in-universe explanation (not that any was ever particularly needed, but still) as to why Data's creator and Khan share the name Noonien. Arik must have named his progeny after the great Augment. (Of course, the real story is that Roddenberry named both characters similarly in an attempt to find an old war buddy. I don't believe he was ever successful.)
quote:Originally posted by Mark Nguyen: -Enterprise outguns a BoP three to one? Good thing Duras had three when we last saw him...
Well, if I'm not mistaken, the BoP is a *scout* and the NX-01 is something akin to a *heavy cruiser* so...
quote:-And there's nothing said that Soong didn't already have kids... Or he'll get out and about at some point later. He's apparently not in prison because of murder, so perhaps he'll be pardonned some day?
And heck, even murderers are pardoned/paroled once in a while, even in this "un-enlightened" age.
quote:Originally posted by Futurama Guy: Anyone catch the name of the Klingon colony that was about to be attacked?
It was Qu'Vat, which was the name of the attack cruiser in "Aquiel" (TNG). It's on the Star Charts, although as I said above their precise configuration is in a fair amount of question now since they don't include the Borderland and have the Briar Patch and Klach D'kel Brakt as separate, etc. (Actually, I'm not quite sure, are we supposed to think Soong's "Briar Patch" is the same as the one from Insurrection? Or is the naming just a coincidence? There certainly didn't seem to be any indication in INS that they were in or near Klingon territory, or even former Klingon territory.)
quote:As for the Malik scene - it was unexpected, but then again, he didn't seem like one to give up so easily. I would imagine all of those extra buttons he was pushing while Soong was talking to him was for the transporter...I was sort of wondering what he was doing there.
He was obviously preparing to detonate the Genesis device.
quote: Hey, didn't they mention the whole Botany Bay myth as being 150 years ago, in so much as to tease the 1996 theory?? I'm sure some sort of general time reference was given.
Well, yes, they are obviously remaining true to the original timeline as Phlox stated the EW were in the 20th century in "Borderland"; but no, the "150 years" reference was separate from the Botany Bay tale. (Soong said Malik would be "confiming everything they've said about Augments for the past 150 years" if he detonated the bioweapon over the colony.
HE KILLED PERSIS!!!!!!!!!! THE BASTARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MAAAAAAAAAAAAAALIK!!!!!!!! Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
-The Denobulette was taken off the shuttle at some point before they got to C-12, yes? I can't remember if she was seen on the set when the shuttle faked its way in? I thought Malik was at the helm.
-Soong's "Briar Patch" need not be the one we see in "Insurrection", though this obviously the intent with Coto's name-dropping mandate this season. The dialogue in "Insurrection" suggests that the name of the place could have been just newly-applied, though it could easily be that when they were exploring the anolmaly someone looked up Arik Soong's report and learned what he called it - or they named THIS Patch Briar because of the similarities.
-I thought production identified Arik Soong as Noonien's grandfather, not father? And I KNOW that it's ony a matter of time that Pocket will have a TOS novel out featuring the middle Soong. Noonien was about ninety according to script.
Mark
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
Great-grandfather, wasn't it? Mush easier to work into the dates, after all. Noonien died in 2366, I believe, 212 years after this episode. Given the longer lifespans implied - and it seems the Soongs don't get out much even when not incarcerated - I can see two generations between Arik and Noonien but not one.
You see the Denobulette (like it!) lying on the floor when all the Augs are in the shuttle.
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
Yes, it was great-grandfather. My bad.
And yeah, although Malik was at the helm, she was unconscious on the floor behind them. In light of "The Augments," it would seem that they left her there while they proceeded with their antics aboard the station, but it raises the oddity of why her biosigns didn't register on the NX-01's scanners.
-MMoM Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
OK, now, Brent Spiner is 55. Assuming Arik is meant to be about the same age, and he maybe spends about another 10 years in prison before they trust him enough to let him out (and if it's later, because of what he did to Lucas' co-worker, that still works for us), then he might be able to marry & have children at about 70, in 2170. If we put Noonien at about 90-ish when he died, that means he was born around 2280. so the two intervening Soongs might have only had children in their fifties, which seems consistent with people in the Trek universe having children later in life.
Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
How many MACOs, did you say?
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
About forty.
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
Re: The "Briar Patch"
It seems Soong actually said "once we're safely through Klingon space, we'll plot a course for these coordinates..." so it isn't actually in Klingon territory, and is still open to become Federation turf as per INS. However, this raises some additional questions such as:
(1.) Why was Kor fighting a battle against the Romulans there in the early 2270s as per "Blood Oath" (DS9)?
(2.) What is the spatial relationship of Klingon, Romulan, Orion, and later-to-be-Federation territories? If looking "down" on the galactic plane focusing on Klingon space and the surrounding areas, the Romulans are to the "north" and the Federation is to the "west," and the BoP is fleeing to UFP space, through Klingon space, away from Orion space, then does this mean that the Orions are to the "south" or to the "east"? And how does this jive with the real location of any of the stars in the Orion constellation? (Also, what was Mandel's reasoning behind placing Orion where he did in the Charts?)
-MMoM Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :
1) It sort of makes sense for Klingons to fight Romulans in a location that is outside either Empire's boundaries. What with there supposedly being this alliance between the Empires and all. I'm sure both need a neutral place to vent their frustrations...
2) Orion is a constellation to the "south" - both Rigel (the real one) and Betelgeuze are part of it. There being no actual star called "Orion", Mandel chose one that could plausibly be named after its constellation by Earthlings (Pi 3 Orionis has no preexisting catchy proper name).
I think the Borderlands and the Orion realm ought to be roughly where shown, "south" of Earth - but possibly farther "south" than Pi 3 Orionis, at least during the ENT era, so that an escape from there would take our heroes through Klingon holdings.
Those in turn could extend farther "north" than they do in later days. I'd be ready to move Qo'noS to lie closer to Earth than Regulus, really. The whole idea of the Klingons being "beaten back" by the forming of the Federation, peacefully or otherwise, sounds appealing.
Timo Saloniemi
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
quote:Originally posted by Timo: 1) It sort of makes sense for Klingons to fight Romulans in a location that is outside either Empire's boundaries. What with there supposedly being this alliance between the Empires and all. I'm sure both need a neutral place to vent their frustrations...
But why would the Feds let them do it in their territory? (Or are we going with the idea that it wasn't at the time?)
Oh, and btw, a reflection:
Did anyone notice that the Orion ships were green and birdlike, right down to a hooked "beak" at the bow? It would seem that there has been an exchange of technology and design aesthetics between the Klingons, Romulans, and Orions throughout history. A nice (if perhaps not entirely intentional) touch that reflects these three powers' proximity to each other. Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
I did mention in the other thread that I thought the Orion ships looked like the Moldy Crow from the Star Wars: Dark Forces game series.
Well I finally got around to watching this episode - I think it was a nice ending to the arc. Actually it might have been the best of the three Augments arc.
Name dropping pants-wetting goodness.
OK about Briar Patch (yes they had to go through Klingon space) but it's also known as Klach D'Kel Bract - WOOO! There is NO reason why that can't be the same thing - for a while there I was thinking of Ty'Gokor - but no - a battle was fought there between the Klingons and the Romulans - I mean it is most probably in neutral space.
People, people - stop with all the 'east, west, north, south' business - I for many years doodled and plotted and posted my ideas about trek maps (I'm sure a few were picked up for that cartography book! ) BUT! I was seriously going crazy. It's an impossible task. It is also fitting that as per STII:TWOK that you are all not thinking of space as being 3-dimensional.
These powers 1. Don't have to rub up against each other. 2. Could have fair distance between them. 3. might over lap above/below/between and in any combination across their respective frotiers.
So do you make their space 'round blobs', 'jelly-fish like with a hub and tendrils or neither of these things - just a collection of systems?? As we know from Deep Space Nine - the Way of the Warrior had Klingons doing training just outside Bajoran territory.
I liked the reference to the Klingon colony.
The Botany Bay/Khan stuff - including the absolute homage to Kahn with Marik wounded, his crew dead - trying to key something into the bridge panels.
The BOP didn't exactly explode - more like it seemed to fall apart.
I liked the effects on Archer - burst blood vessels around the eyes etc after being in the vacuum of space.
I ALSO enjoyed the MUSIC/score in this episode - it was VERY good.
Did Mayweather say anything this episode? I know Archer ordered him to plot a course but there wasn't even an 'aye-sir' from him.
There should be a web page that tracks the number of times he talks or the number of words he says like there was a log of the destruction of Voyager's shuttles!
Interesting how the Augments didn't like the idea of their 'brethren's' genome being tampered with - raised interesting questions/situation.
I liked the end with Soong. I was waiting for something like that to happen - but I still liked it.
Andrew
P.S. I'm off to watch 'The Forge'.
Andrew
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Oh and the area of space near the Klingon empire in that display said:
"Starfleet explored space"
Posted by Futurama Guy (Member # 968) on :
quote:Originally posted by AndrewR: P.S. I'm off to watch 'The Forge'.
Andrew
What the hell? I haven't even viewed it yet...
Fucking Saturday 6:30pm airing bullshit... Posted by Futurama Guy (Member # 968) on :
Dammit to hell...its on at 8pm tonight.... Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
OMG! I'm watching "Star Trek" before Americans!! This is a FIRST! So many years of having to watch TNG, DS9 and Voyager delayed by up to 3 years! Woo! Sorry to rub it in - but... it's cool!
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