Saltah'na
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By this time, you've all heard of a sunken Russian sub in the Barents Sea. In last report, the men are still alive, but rescue operations are next to impossible and the men are running out of air.
What a way to go.........
*bows head*
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I think I read in the paper this morning that Russia finally asked Norway for help. *snicker* Seriously, I think some other countries are sending rescue subs and such.
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Saltah'na
Chinese Canadian, or 75% Commie Bastard.
Member # 33
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The Russians could have asked for help earlier. It waited for two whole days before asking Norway and the UK to help. A specially designed Rescue sub is on its way now, but won't get there for another few days. By then, its crew may already be dead.
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The Russians do have their own rescue "bell" which they were trying, but were stopped by weather. If you think about it, if they had asked the UK earlier, I doubt if it would have changed the situation much, due to the weather.
Some info on the Kursk: Russian Submarine Kursk K-141, Krasnodar (Oscar II) class nuclear-powered guided missle submarine, launched 1995, part of Northern Fleet (based in Severomorsk)
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Well, I believe the UK sub was being flown in too, since I saw on the news a Russian IL-76 carrying a sub of some kind.
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Well the US did offer assistance should the Russians ask, but I believe there are incompatibility issues with hatches or something like that.
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Well if the Russians had asked earlier instead of using crude diving bells on the sub the US might have been able to modify one of the DSRVs. At the least a team couldv'e gotten up there quickly. It appears Russian pride has doomed the crew, if they are not dead from CO2 posioning already.
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The "candycane" that the Russians are sending down is relatively modern, actually. Like someone said above, the weather and the current is preventing a successful lock-on and shabby Russian equipment is probably not to blame too much. And what makes you think a DSRV could get from San Diego to Murmansk any faster than the LR5 from Scotland?
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Shik
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Mystic & Avalon are designed to be able to be deployed aboard C-5 "Galaxys" within 12 hours to any spot in the world. They're fitted with universal docking collars to latch onto 98% of the subs in the world, including the vast majority of Western & Soviet-issue boats; considering the Oscar is a relatively new design, there's no problem.
What would most likely happen is that an American sub would be called in from the Arctic region to dock at Murmansk, where the DSRV would be bolted onto the aft escape trunk. That would enable quick rescue options without needing a surface support vessel; weather & whatnot thus don't become a factor.
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Actually, it was explicitly stated on the news here that docking ports weren't compatable. As the story goes, the Americans went to the Soviets when the DSRVs were under development hoping for a docking collar would work to rescue a ship on either side. But they were poo-pooed by the Soviets at the time.
Where'd that 98% number come from, then?
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Shik
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I guy I knew who was on Mystic's support team.
It's not really a matter of compatability of hathces. The hatch is simple: wheel is turned, door is opened. It's whether they can get a dry seal through the skirt. Oscars have a flat decks as do most SSBNs. There's no reason the aft escape trunk couldn't be used...UNLESS the crew can't reach it. THEN I can see a slight problem, as reaching that forward trunk is annoying, due to bow curve & such.
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Shik
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More info on the DSRVs: Apparently, Avalon was inactivated in July. I was exploring the page listed about & I found this one, too. Hit the link for "Manned Submersibles," then scroll a bit to the Mystic-class.
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Seriously, I think some other countries are sending rescue subs and such.
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