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The359
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I bet the guy who made that wager wont pay.

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Teelie
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I don't know. Some people are desperate enough to buy one.
Personally, I'll wait til they're at a decent price, maybe $150-200.

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Malnurtured Snay
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I sent the seller an e-mail to ask.

Intereastingly, note the buyer is listed as "non-registered user" ... meaning he may have recently been suspended from eBay ... for not sending money, perchance?

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That's the first time in ages that my eyes nearly popped out of my head.
$15 grand!? I'm not that familiar with online trading, so would someone please explain: was that the asking price, or what some tool actually forked out for one?
(either way, they'd both want to red-hot pokers shoved up their arses)

The PS2? I mean, have you ever seen such a bastardized Frankenstein of a machine? Games console, DVD player, CD player, backwards compatible, stands on it's side, etc. A jack of all trades, and a master of sweet fuck all, if you ask me.

And it looks rank.

Software companies (outside Japan) have been whinging for a year about how the PS2 is such a cow to program games for - with all it's other capabilities, perhaps the gaming content of the machine is being neglected?

I'd also guess that the DVD tech in the machine isn't as top-of-the-range as many other dedicated DVD players, even from Sony themselves. Why? Because the specs of the machine were released over a year ago, and other design houses would have those eclipsed easily by now.

And the backwards compatibility. A good idea, alright, but almost certainly a back-up for the Xmas when a shortage of PS2 games occurs.

That's why I can't wait for Nintendo's Gamecube in 2001. A totally dedicated games machine, made in conjunction with Masushitsu (Panasonic to you, guv'nor), that will have so much care and attention lavished over it that the machine cannot fail to have at least 5 "killer apps" released at the same time as it (unlike the PS2, which many regard as having only the one at the minute, the snowboarding game).

Of course, release games do not make or break a console, they just indicate how dedicated the parent company is to pleasing it's gamers, which I'm pleased to say, is one of Nintendo's driving motivations. The other, presumably, is to make squids of money!

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Malnurtured Snay
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The first bid was $1

If you click on "Bid History", it'll tell you who bid, how many times they bid, and how much they bid as well.

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What a way to make my grand entrance to Flare!

Being a Corporate Buyer, I can enlighten you somewhat on what may be happening.

In my opinion...Sony is with-holding the PS2's. I buy internationally and have never had a problem in getting partial ships (short of Customs holding up the shipment for a week or so). A 'partial ship' means the company making the necessary component will ship only a small quantity of the part ordered. They will continue to ship small quantities until the total quantity of the order has been met.

This means that Sony is probably receiving the necessary component and building the PS2's but Warehousing (storing) until a particular date (likely Dec. 20th). They can realize a much larger profit by doing this. The longer the wait, the more they can ask for on the PS2 and get!

It would be very likely that the first release of the PS2's will be to the USA in my opinion. One very strong reason for this is that the USA realizes a 'Bill Back' clause. Since I don't work for the PDC's (product distribution centers), I can't guarentee that this is the case. This is usually written in a contract between the component manufacturer and assembler(OEM - Original Equipment Manufacturers) or the assembler(OEM) and distributor (PDC). A 'Bill Back' clause is where the assembler (Sony) can 'bill back' the component manufacturer for every single day they are late meeting their order requirement. The company I work for now has customers that do this to us. We can be billed back anywhere from $100 daily to $1,000 per minute that an assembly line is down because of us. I could only hope that the company supplying to Sony is having to do this as well. That is still going to leave Sony building the PS2's but warehousing.

This only gets more complicated...but, I'll have mercy on you people. My prediction is that you will see these on the market around the 20th of December at a much higher cost - and in the US first.

Good Luck everyone - I can see the line's forming now and the costs going down after Christmas!


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Ritten
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When I was working for ITT in a plant that made fuel lines for the big 3 we shut down Ford once. It was a cross of the Japanese sending us bad raw materials and the Quality people being dolts about the problem, but they had no new fuel lines for 8 hours, cost ITT a bundle in paying Ford in lost production. Of course, it cost the Nippons a bigger bundle paying back ITT.

We shut down Everude once for not having their vapor lines made too, Saturn for a dash board vent tube, Chevy for a brake line, and on and on.

The brake strike gave us time to get caught up though.

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Malnurtured Snay
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Wow, MsChris, welcome! And *what* a first post!

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MsChris
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Hi everyone! Forgot to say that above.

Ritten, it would appear we have something in common! I buy for the automotive industry - It just happens to be 'heavy duty' trucking.

And thanks, JeffKardde. I already feel welcomed.



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Malnurtured Snay
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The seller just e-mailed me back.

The bidder never paid for it. He seemed rather upset that he missed out on $15000!!!!!!!!

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Ritten
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Gee, I wonder why.......
Did the Seller really believe anybody would pay that much for a PS2? If so I'd like to become friends with the person that does, "Hey, I got the one of a kind broken screw driver, I hate to part with it, but I'll sell it to you for $1,000.00 dollars."
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Sorry MsChris, left the auto industry a few years back, went in to the Rent-to-Own business.
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Shik
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:::raises arms in Kevin McDonald-esque triumph::: YES! YES! YES! Vindication!

Marketing is marketing. Capitalism is the "new empire" to the Japanese. Miss out on Christmas? BULLSHIT.

Chris��: you say 20 December, huh? I'm still betting on 10 or more likely 15 December. That extra lead time to disseminate the info.

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Shik, I'll take you up on that bet. It'll come out around the 20th and be all over television (maybe even the news!).

Anyone else care to venture a date?

Ummm....These dates are a month or so away - who is gonna keep up with the bet? Any volunteers?


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Ritten
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MsChris, your posting your marker here

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Welcome to Flare, MsChris.

Now then, surely you people, out of all people, should realize that the PC is still the ultimate gaming platform?

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